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    Default Please add (text?) cues to Rainbow Puzzle

    I would like to renew my request for adding cues to the Rainbow Puzzle (Rainbow In The Dark.)

    These cues can be any form, text or symbols. Whatever is relatively quick and easy.

    Yes, I have heard all the counter arguments over and over, and I have discussed the "pattern" over and over, nonetheless that puzzle can cause hours of frustration. I noticed clues have been added to most of the other colored puzzles in DDO and I suggest something added to the Rainbow puzzle, especially since completion is required for flagging for the shroud and greensteel crafting. As I understand it, at one point that puzzle was optional? (Might have been a bug...)

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    You're talking about the lever puzzle, yes? That one's not required to complete the quest.

    If not... oh dear.

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    I assume you mean for color-blind people? If so I can get behind that.

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    I'm color blind (mostly heh)... And can work that puzzle np.

    Just keep working with it man. Some things in this game become much easier with repetition. I'm not sure where you are getting hitched up. Perhaps suggestions would help?
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    Yes please.

    I am colour blind and that puzzle is an absolute nightmare for me. I KNOW the solution, but if I misstep once, I'm screwed.

    I would just like to have a pop up tell the colour when I cursor over it.

    Cheers!
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    Definitely signed. There have been over the years a lot of improvements in the game for color blind people--the latest being the darker cooldown timers--and this idea should go through as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blkcat1028 View Post
    I am colour blind and that puzzle is an absolute nightmare for me. I KNOW the solution, but if I misstep once, I'm screwed. I would just like to have a pop up tell the colour when I cursor over it. Cheers!
    You should be able to tell when all the lights are off, right? If so, just turn all the lights off. Then hit the first one once, the second one twice, the third one three times, and so on... Not as a good of a fix, obviously, but it looks like a workaround that should prevent you from having to spend more than five minutes on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faent View Post
    You should be able to tell when all the lights are off, right? If so, just turn all the lights off. Then hit the first one once, the second one twice, the third one three times, and so on... Not as a good of a fix, obviously, but it looks like a workaround that should prevent you from having to spend more than five minutes on it.
    This. It will be a pain if you misstep though (with no way to tell which, if any, of the lights you stuffed up).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faent View Post
    You should be able to tell when all the lights are off, right? If so, just turn all the lights off. Then hit the first one once, the second one twice, the third one three times, and so on... Not as a good of a fix, obviously, but it looks like a workaround that should prevent you from having to spend more than five minutes on it.
    Not that simple. If you f up, you might have to reset the whole puzzle, especially if you do it more then once. I posted else where, but I just won't do it because the "blue" is green. Frankly, it might be hard for some people to even know they f'd up depending on what colors they can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faent View Post
    You should be able to tell when all the lights are off, right? If so, just turn all the lights off. Then hit the first one once, the second one twice, the third one three times, and so on... Not as a good of a fix, obviously, but it looks like a workaround that should prevent you from having to spend more than five minutes on it.
    Are you color blind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faent View Post
    You should be able to tell when all the lights are off, right? If so, just turn all the lights off. Then hit the first one once, the second one twice, the third one three times, and so on... Not as a good of a fix, obviously, but it looks like a workaround that should prevent you from having to spend more than five minutes on it.
    That's pretty much the technique I use. The problem lies in the fact that if I do make a mistake, I have no way of knowing until I complete the puzzle and nothing happens

    Then I can't tell where the problem is, so I have to reset the whole thing. Add in a little lag and it can be muy frustrating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blkcat1028 View Post
    That's pretty much the technique I use. The problem lies in the fact that if I do make a mistake, I have no way of knowing until I complete the puzzle and nothing happens

    Then I can't tell where the problem is, so I have to reset the whole thing. Add in a little lag and it can be muy frustrating.
    This

    Last time I tried, I just let someone else do it after a couple tries, and then logged off in frustration after the completion.


    Realistically the only reason I knew the old reavers puzzle had 6 colors is because I was told. The only reason I know the current one has 6 is because of the dots.

    Frankly, if some wants to comment on the "ease" of this puzzle and isn't color blind, they can ****. We understand how to work it, the problem isn't working it, the problem comes when for various reasons (hirelings, other plays, mis steps) the puzzle gets borked. Really, color puzzle issues absolutely need to be fixed, and there's not an easy ways for a non-color blind individual to understand the situation.

    I play ddo for fun. Color based puzzles =/= fun.
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    It would be nice if the OP had indicated that it was to help with color blind people. I was mighty confused until one of the later posters brought it up.

    That said? I see no reason not to change it. Maybe have dots light up on the buttons, so that you can count if you can't see colors.

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    What are the odds that there are six color blind people in a group?

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    But what about those of us who can't read AND are color blind? Could we also get musical notes? Well you know what? I lost my hearing in 'Nam so that's no good either. Could you spawn an NPC that points to the puzzle and mimics exactly what I should do?

    /not signed

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    Funny...colour blind or not, this *puzzle* should never take more than a few minutes with a mistep. If you are spending "hours of frustration", there is a bigger problem than the ability to distinguish colours.

    If you are colour blind, running it solo, running it for the first time and refuse to look up a faqs (how often are we figuring this is the case?), then ya...I guess it might be an issue.

    As for the optional part, you used to be able to just shove the scepter through the barrier, so ya, sorta.

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    Ive watched people do the run over each and every button x times and it seems to take forever. The method i use is much faster and takes out the need to count. It will not help with the hireling/party member problem but it will make it easier for you.

    Step 1: Put out all the lights.
    Step 2: Run over the buttons going to from left to right, then right to left -1. The order of lights ends up like this: (assuming there are 7 buttons its been awhile)

    1111111
    1222222
    1233333
    1234444
    1234555
    1234566
    1234567

    When you start it you run on all of them from the left to the right. This puts them all at 1. Then you run on all of them from the right to left except the left most one. Then you turn around and run right again until you are off the puzzle. Turn around and run left but for the left 2 most ones and so on.

    Once its set to all off I can do the puzzle in less then a minute. Assuming you don't have a pet or something in the way this will solve it fast and you don't need to count how many times you hit each button.

    I would not have a problem with a key being on the wall though with numbers and lights on it, not sure how you would put numbers on the floor buttons though.

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    /signed.

    I hate this quest because of the lack of color text on the puzzle. It should have a text hover on the button that indicates its current color.

    This is one of the few quests that I don't solo, because the puzzle is a pain. Yes, I know the step pattern to do the puzzle. But a small lag and I have to start all over or ask my wife to come look at the screen and tell me which one is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forzah View Post
    What are the odds that there are six color blind people in a group?
    Not the point.

    A colorblind person may decide to try and solo this quest. OH wait!! I know someone who has and he had to ask me to look over his shoulder to make sure the colors didn't get messed up. Fortuantely, he had someone who could help him, not all are so lucky.
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    Until this gets fixed (yeah right), here's an idea. Roleplay it.

    If you get assigned to do the puzzle, run around it for a while (as randomly as possible) then go: "Sorry guys I can't discern red or green from yellow, but I'll keep trying if you want me to!" You can even put it into your bio!

    If you go solo or everyone in your party is colour blind, you'll have to tough it out though...

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