Explain to me why I should choose Favored Soul over Cleric

[Disturbed_Whisper]

I like the Cleric class and I know that FvS get a weapon feat (I would go LS) and more SP, but why should I choose FvS over Cleric when one has to pay for FvS? Weapon doesn't really matter to me & I'm not running out of SP between rest stops as of yet as a cleric


What makes Favored Soul better than Cleric

[morticianjohn]

1.) don't buy it, unlock it with favor.

2.) stacking elemental resistance (10 for 3 elements)

3.) DR

4.) more SP

5.) wings

[Darknark]

1.) don't buy it, unlock it with favor.

2.) stacking elemental resistance (10 for 3 elements)

3.) DR

4.) more SP

5.) wings

All of that +

Sov. Host Capstone for more Hjealage.
Perfect synergy with high healing amp, DR, torc, and capstone heal for effectively infinite SP in many scenarios.
Can take shield mastery feats for tanking ability
Laser cannon - bew bew
you can go "con-based" without much in the way of adverse effects,
Oh, and they're the Chuck Norris of DDO.

[Disturbed_Whisper]

Regarding the whole favor point thing, that would take me forever to get I think

Say I have 2 toons, how far would I have to go with them both equally, doing hard quests (don't party much) to get the favor needed... and how much IS needed anyway?

[Darknark]

2500

[Dandonk]

Regarding the whole favor point thing, that would take me forever to get I think

Say I have 2 toons, how far would I have to go with them both equally, doing hard quests (don't party much) to get the favor needed... and how much IS needed anyway?

I believe you need 2500 total favor.

And it does NOT stack from different characters. You have to get the 2500 on a single character.

[Mrmorphling]

If you own a good majority of packs it's not that hard to unlock as there are over 3500 favor points total so you can choose what to pick.

Basically FvS are much more durable and: DR 10, stacking 10 ele resists up to 3 elements, wings for emergency exits really add up in term of survivability (And infact you see FvS soloing EDQ2 by shield blocking and not clerics :P).

On the other end you have less flexibiity on your spell choice, only 3 lvl 9s hurt, you need to decide before hand which spell you like (even if switching is possible it becomes expensive).

[Matuse]

even if switching is possible it becomes expensive

If? Switching is possible. It's been possible for a while. In fact, it's gotten easier since you can get dragon blood potions that let you swap more than one spell at a time.

[Mellkor]

As someone who plays both classes extensively, I would advise that if you want to be a healer with good melee and better survivability go FvS. If you want to be more of a healer only, go cleric. If you want to be a healer with good divine spell offensive power, go FvS.

Before update 11 I thought a melee focused WF FvS was equal in terms of healing to the best heal speced nanny bot cleric types, but a good bit ahead in melee power. But post U11 with longer fights radiant servant clerics have a huge advantage in terms of long term sustainable healing power. Clerics still lag behind a FvS in terms of offensive divine spell casting, survivability, and melee capabilities, IMO.

-JR

[Disturbed_Whisper]

I'm thinking, that since it will only cost me $8, since I already have a few turbine points, that I may do that

Here's another question, what would be an optimal race for them, I usually choose human, but if there is a better for FvS, fill me in

[baronlager]

I'm thinking, that since it will only cost me $8, since I already have a few turbine points, that I may do that

Here's another question, what would be an optimal race for them, I usually choose human, but if there is a better for FvS, fill me in

Probably depends on what your vision for your FVS is. I ended up going Warforged because of what I was looking to do and learned a lot from these two threads: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=268346 and http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=211596. May not be the vision you have and mind, so I would just do some searching to see what might work best for you. I really enjoy my FVS, but I have to say hitting level 12 made a big difference. Once I had blade barrier it changed the way I was running my character. Good luck!!!

[RangerOne]

I just unlocked the 2500 favor the other night. It took me two years and a level 20 ranger to do it, but I do not play as fervently as some others. I've mostly soloed, so it was sometimes hard to get that extra favor since everyone knows rangers are squishy and only shot arrows and never pull melee weapons.

Like you, I wasn't sure what the differences would be. I've only run a couple of things with him so far, but one of the most noticeable things is fewer spells and more spell points. This is actually to my liking because I'm old and doddering and sometimes find the ever expanding hotbars with spells on my cleric can be trying.

Not sure what good the wings are, but I'll find out in about fourteen levels I think.

[Zarquine]

I am a big fan of Impaqt's "Superior Soul build" (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=243539, Update for PrE: http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...&postcount=286)

My char is lvl 14 and I have a lot of fun with it. Good solo-capability at the moment and good team-capability.

[gloopygloop]

FvS get free Greatsword proficiency without splashing another class when they choose the correct race.

DR 10 at level 20 is fantastic.

[azrael4h]

FvS get free Greatsword proficiency without splashing another class when they choose the correct race.

DR 10 at level 20 is fantastic.

Only as a Warforged Favored of the Lord of Blades. And those can get up to 15DR/Adamantine, with a feat and some enhancements.

Sov Host gives Longswords, Silver Flame Long Bows, Undying Court gives Scimitars, and Vulkoor gives Short Swords.

[gloopygloop]

Only as a Warforged Favored of the Lord of Blades. And those can get up to 15DR/Adamantine, with a feat and some enhancements.

Sov Host gives Longswords, Silver Flame Long Bows, Undying Court gives Scimitars, and Vulkoor gives Short Swords.

That's why I said you had to choose the correct race. All of the other weak and fleshy races are incorrect choices for any class, but especially for Favored Souls.

[Darknark]

That's why I said you had to choose the correct race. All of the other weak and fleshy races are incorrect choices for any class, but especially for Favored Souls.

I disagree.

Half-elf. Monk dilly for 20% amp.
Con-based FvS. Max dr and Healing amp.
Get shield mastery feats.
Use Sov. host capstone for ~220 on a non-crit.
Get effectively infinite SP via torc/conc + capstone healing.
Win.

[gloopygloop]

I disagree.

Half-elf. Monk dilly for 20% amp.
Con-based FvS. Max dr and Healing amp.
Get shield mastery feats.
Use Sov. host capstone for ~220 on a non-crit.
Get infinite SP via torc/conc + capstone healing.
Win.

But doesn't it hurt when you try to embed a docent into the chest of a Half Elf?

[Darknark]

But doesn't it hurt when you try to embed a docent into the chest of a Half Elf?

T3 Epic Cavalry Plate is the (admittedly less powerful) Docent of Defiance for Fleshies, besides -50% H-amp kinda kills the infinite SP situation for higher incoming damage situations.

[erikbozelie]

ow joy, you said the forbidden sencence in spellcasting folder .

an cleric can splash 3 classes, and maintain about every single importent ability. while an fvs would lose about everything hes worth.

in other words:
an cleric can asimulate other classes features and abilities while an fvs cannot.

such can it asimulate the spell point pool of fvs and socs by going 18/1/1. or 17/2/1. depending on flavor and beat it in spell endurance, or take 2 monk / 1 roque for masive damage. theres unlimited ways to splash so and every plus on fvs soul side, is been discussed in a thread linked below.

every statement has been done, broken down. remade. reposted. repointed. confirmed and verrified and doesnt really need to be done again.

heres my old threads about this.
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=332824 -
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=4101679 - sortof continued here

it might bore you to read 250 posts but it humours me to see fvs try various ways to make the class look superior in every way which its not.

in every single specific build, it will lose by an noselength. but might win in the middle class of being mister average.

the only thing that is left standing are wings.

my current cleric projects - 600 dps, 80 ac, 400 hp. DR, DC40spell /48stun, epic trapsmithing, umd, - yes all in 1 toon.
2800sp healing cleric with 30 turns ( not bored enough to go higher(3k+. 33 turns), takes more grinding).

read the rest in those threads.

take care. hope i explained it abit to you.
zack.

PS. i am still bashing my head against the wall to make an fvs build that doesnt make me compare to cleric and cry.
also, my 2 chalanges builds to beat are also posted in that first thread, but up to this date, still unbeated by any fvs.