Maiming and Earth III

[karl_k0ch]

How do weapon enhancements like Maiming, Brilliance and any Burst Effect interact with the enhanced Crit multiplier of Earth III stance on handwraps?

Is the damage enhanced, too, or are the wraps treated as x2 weapons?

[Taimasan]

In Earth III/IV the enhanced crit is affected by bursts and maiming. So for regular crits its 3x, fists of iron 4x, earth 3x finisher, 5x crit.

[wax_on_wax_off]

In Earth III/IV the enhanced crit is affected by bursts and maiming. So for regular crits its 3x, fists of iron 4x, earth 3x finisher, 5x crit.

I heard that it worked the same as the bonus to crits that frenzied berzerkers get which didn't increase such bonus effects like bursts?

[elg582]

My experience with this has been that burst effects on the weapon get the increased multiplier, but that ToD rings and the like do not; I could be wrong, but I would think that maiming would work the same way.

[Taimasan]

Yea you guys are wrong . Check out the most # crit thread for monks and you can see it illustrated with Quis and other Monks.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=232780

I remember Shade asked me this also. Don't you monks ever look at your bursts?!?! It works. =

[Kinerd]

That thread shows it working for earth-earth-earth, yes. It might show it working for Earth 3/4 in your last screen shot, but with the icons off you can't say for sure. I'm assuming the unlisted 13th damage type is the Brawling Glove piercing?

[Taimasan]

That thread shows it working for earth-earth-earth, yes. It might show it working for Earth 3/4 in your last screen shot, but with the icons off you can't say for sure. I'm assuming the unlisted 13th damage type is the Brawling Glove piercing?

What do you mean??? Look at the screenshots, you see the first number, then the -8...which is sneak attack. It is not unlisted and I simply think your confused, the numbers are in order if you know how to read damage in the correct manner.
Compare the burst descriptions and see it yourself, anyone who really knows melee damage though could see what is illustrated in a glance, and I did not foresee having to explain that; but in a good way I suppose it is needed.. My screenshots and others show the bursts working correctly with 3x finisher.
There was also know brawling gloves then, nor ninja spy with that first screenshot. I have been making monks for awhile. But anyway, it works, and if monks still autocritted on stuns I would go through the trouble of doing it myself, but I will leave you to that. If you have any other questions to clear up any other misconceptions just let me know.

[Kinerd]

What do you mean??? Look at the screenshots, you see the first number, then the -8...which is sneak attack. It is not unlisted and I simply think your confused, the numbers are in order if you know how to read damage in the correct manner.
Compare the burst descriptions and see it yourself, anyone who really knows melee damage though could see what is illustrated in a glance, and I did not foresee having to explain that; but in a good way I suppose it is needed.. My screenshots and others show the bursts working correctly with 3x finisher.
There was also know brawling gloves then, nor ninja spy with that first screenshot. I have been making monks for awhile. But anyway, it works, and if monks still autocritted on stuns I would go through the trouble of doing it myself, but I will leave you to that. If you have any other questions to clear up any other misconceptions just let me know.

As I said, the thread shows it working for earth-earth-earth. I didn't say anything about your first screenshot.

Your last screen shot is the only one that has the +1 crit multiplier from Earth stance 3/4, because it wasn't implemented when the others were taken. You list the following effects:
force burst (2)
icy burst (2)
pure good (1)
flaming burst (2)
shocking burst (2)
force crit (1)
sneak attack (1)

This is 11 numbers, +1 from the main damage for a total of 12, yet your hit has 13 numbers. Because the icons are off, there's no way to know what damage type the -14 number was, so you can't conclude anything about Earth stance from that screenshot.