New Elite VoD Loot

[Cyr]

I would like to request that the pali who got that weapon do some testing for the community as to what debuffs and dots it dispels.

Should be a good thing to know so everyone can yell in party chat "put that thing away!" when they see someone pull it out in a raid.

[Seamonkeysix]

The sword looks interesting, though shouldnt it be silver & not cold iron, in keeping with the fine tradition of having a bane weapon for the boss in the bosses own loot chest?

Make it metalline and banishing (with the other perks it has). Then it is a ML 18 weapon worth swinging as a paladin, IMO.

[gloopygloop]

You do realize you just made it fly right past Epic Chimeras Fang in terms of damage, right? Like it waved to it and just kept right on going.

With the To Hit problems that many Paladins have, eFang's +10 To Hit still gives the eFang a significant DPS advantage against serious enemies.

[Aaxeyu]

They should make it upgradeable with 30 epic raid tokens to add:
+10
Greater "evil" bane (greater bane against all evil mobs)
"evil" slaying (vorpal against all evil mobs)
Pure good
Holy
Metalline
Good version of vampirism


Paladins really need a boost, and this would go a long way.

[elraido]

With the To Hit problems that many Paladins have, eFang's +10 To Hit still gives the eFang a significant DPS advantage against serious enemies.

You did see that the quote I showed that he wants it to go to 2d8 AND x3 crit. If he did that, the crit damage would far surpass the efang. My greensteel khopeshes normally crit for around 145 base damage. Those are 1d10x3. My efang (with all the dragonmark fears) normally maxes out at around 125 base damage. I normally don't miss that much on epics even to begin with, so the difference with the To Hit doesn't make that much of a difference.

[elraido]

They should make it upgradeable with 30 epic raid tokens to add:
+10
Greater "evil" bane (greater bane against all evil mobs)
"evil" slaying (vorpal against all evil mobs)
Pure good
Holy
Metalline
Good version of vampirism


Paladins really need a boost, and this would go a long way.

It is not an epic item. It is regular raid loot.

[Qezuzu]

Yes so it would be perfect for dispelling dots and other debuffs on bosses. worse then useless effect since mobs typically dont have buffs on them.

Just add an exemption for harmful spells.

You do realize you just made it fly right past Epic Chimeras Fang in terms of damage, right? Like it waved to it and just kept right on going.

Greensteel is higher damage than most epic weapons. Elite VoD is a lot harder than Shroud. Epic Sentinels are easier than Elite VoD. It's only higher damage on pure Paladins.

Those are suggestions. This weapon should at least bypass DR and rival the other high-end weapons.

[voodoogroves]

It is not an epic item. It is regular raid loot.

That was his point - make it upgradable TO an epic item.

[Truga]

The sword looks interesting, though shouldnt it be silver & not cold iron, in keeping with the fine tradition of having a bane weapon for the boss in the bosses own loot chest?

Actually the boss would have a bane weapon for his enemies. Demons are pretty much THE enemy when it comes to devils so it makes plenty sense.

[Aaxeyu]

It is not an epic item. It is regular raid loot.

Let me repeat myself: "They should make it upgradeable with 30 epic raid tokens to add..."

[Qezuzu]

It is not an epic item. It is regular raid loot.

Regular raid loot drops on all difficulties. This doesn't.

Greensteel weapons have many very good enhancements, but come from a rather easy raid.

The suggestions being put out are arbitrary, we're just saying this weapon should at least bypass devil DR and be in the same DPS-range as other common Paladin choices.

[SableShadow]

It is not an epic item. It is regular raid loot.

Then they should yank it out of regular l00tz and make it an epic item.

[elraido]

Let me repeat myself: "They should make it upgradeable with 30 epic raid tokens to add..."

So there should be ONE regular raid loot item in the game that is upgradeable to an epic item? That doesn't make any sense at all. Not only that, but then it would need to be made level 20.

Then they should yank it out of regular l00tz and make it an epic item.

What missions should they put it in if it isn't going to be VoD? Not that it would matter much.

[Aaxeyu]

So there should be ONE regular raid loot item in the game that is upgradeable to an epic item? That doesn't make any sense at all.

Why not?
There is only one item that has different stats depending on which class is using it, do you think that that doesn't make any sense at all aswell?

Not only that, but then it would need to be made level 20.

Yep.

[elraido]

Why not?
There is only one item that has different stats depending on which class is using it, do you think that that doesn't make any sense at all aswell?



Yep.

You aren't thinking about it logistically. Do you want this to be a raid item or an epic item that drops out of a mission that doesn't have any other epic items...

[Aaxeyu]

You aren't thinking about it logistically. Do you want this to be a raid item or an epic item that drops out of a mission that doesn't have any other epic items...

A raid item that can be gotten from a raid with other raid items and upgradeable to epic with things gotten from epic raids that drops other items which upgrades nonepics to epics.

I really don't see the problem.

[BlackSteel]

I'm waiting to see the heavy repeater from Hound which shoots xoriat bees......

[elraido]

A raid item that can be gotten from a raid with other raid items and upgradeable to epic with things gotten from epic raids that drops other items which upgrades nonepics to epics.

I really don't see the problem.

You do realize they would need to make an epic VoD, add shards and seals and scrolls to make this happen right? That is a lot of resources to do that for one item at this point. IF they wanted to upgrade it, I can see them making it like what they are doing with Gianthold and Abbott, but I do not see them making VoD an epic raid any time soon.

[Necrological]

I would like to request that the pali who got that weapon do some testing for the community as to what debuffs and dots it dispels.

Should be a good thing to know so everyone can yell in party chat "put that thing away!" when they see someone pull it out in a raid.

will do so when the lam server is back up since its doing an update.

[voodoogroves]

You do realize they would need to make an epic VoD, add shards and seals and scrolls to make this happen right? That is a lot of resources to do that for one item at this point. IF they wanted to upgrade it, I can see them making it like what they are doing with Gianthold and Abbott, but I do not see them making VoD an epic raid any time soon.

They could put an epic item as a drop in Proof is in the Poison if they wanted.

Or make it so you could put a string of prayer beads and scroll of blur into the stone of change it it spit out an epic (whatever).

Plenty of epic items are NOT made from seals/scrolls/shards ... cove, mabar, etc.



He's not suggesting they make an epic VOD - he's suggesting they add a recipe to the epic altar where if you stick this level 20 item in AND 30 epic tokens, it gives you back an epic version of the item (which would need to be created).