New Elite VoD Loot

[sephiroth1084]

I'd like the Divine Avenger to end up being somewhat comparable to the fully empowered (triple dragonmarked) Epic Chimera's Fang. Not necessarily covering the same territory, but in the same realm of power, at least against specific targets.

[Raptormesh]

I'd like the Divine Avenger to end up being somewhat comparable to the fully empowered (triple dragonmarked) Epic Chimera's Fang. Not necessarily covering the same territory, but in the same realm of power, at least against specific targets.

Seconded, with a bit more flexibility one would hope.

[aerendhil]

Holy Avenger : your choice of a Longsword, Bastard sword or Two-handed sword
Exclusive - BtC
+4
Cold Iron
Holy
Pure Good
SR22
On-hit : dispel magic (CL=10)
Break Enchantment 1/Day (CL=10)
Min Lvl 10 - Paladin Only (no UMD)


Epic Holy Avenger : previous weapon upgrade
Exclusive - BtC
Holy strike : this weapon has an enhancement bonus equal to 1/2 your paladin levels (min 4 , max 10)
Metalline
Holy Burst
Greater Good
Radiance
SR34
True Seeing
On-hit : greater dispel magic (CL=20)
Break Enchantment 3/Day (CL=20)
Red Augment Slot
Min Lvl 20 - Paladin Only (no UMD)

most relevant part in bold

[noinfo]

Nice ideas

DoS - Regen LoH

KotC - Faster regen on smites (30 -45 seconds?)

HotD - Regen Turns

I would like to see something similar for pallies to a Chimera Fang.

Change to Bastard Sword base damage 2d8

PRE of anytype 1
gain holy burst
gain bastard sword prof

PRE 2
gain silver
Gain True Law

PRE 3
Radiance
SR/Dispel etc
crit range 18+
rightiousness

[Auran82]

*cough*on hit chance to apply divine punishment, stacks 3 times, no metas*cough*

[danielhrobbins]

VOD isn't a gear/stat check at all, it's a healer skill test.

It's an assassin's playground.

[TDarkchylde]

I happen to like this new sword as-is. Arising (my WSS 15 Pal/3 Mnk/2 Ftr) would have a field day with this.

Anyone tested it with a splash paladin yet? I'd hate to think all those yummy bonuses would be limited to capstone paladins.

[FranOhmsford]

I only read page 1 {about Omniscience} But...Boy are you guys jaded.

I've also seen the other thread about Divine Vengeance and all the people complaining about it ONLY being a long sword.

I'll say again - Boy are you guys Jaded!

[AmatsukaIncarnate]

I only read page 1 {about Omniscience} But...Boy are you guys jaded.

I've also seen the other thread about Divine Vengeance and all the people complaining about it ONLY being a long sword.

I'll say again - Boy are you guys Jaded!

Compare this with any ToD ring since those are what primarily are in people's ring slots.
Or any other min level 20 loot for a general reference...
Very VERY niche item

[FranOhmsford]

Compare this with any ToD ring since those are what primarily are in people's ring slots.
Or any other min level 20 loot for a general reference...
Very VERY niche item

OK I'm VIP so this doesn't apply to me BUT Vale, Gianthold and Delera's are the three main packs I see people telling newbies to get.

I personally consider Phiarlan Carnival, Red Fens and Sands to be must haves.

ToD is in none of these packs.

Now this bit does apply to me - I've completed Shroud on 9 occasions on my main and completed my first Greensteel Goggles.
I've also completed HoX, Reaver and Titan on that character.

I have not managed to even flag for ToD yet and have not managed to find a group that hasn't wiped in VoD.

BUT...VoD is part of Vale meaning everyone who's been told they absolutely must have Vale has the opportunity to get this ring.
ToD however....?

[grayham]

Just my 2 bits....

-I think Divine Vengeance is pretty neat. Yes there are better situational alternatives, but the views of forumites/lammalanders are not representative of the masses which leads me to my next point...

-There will be many a mad scramble for this when U12 goes live. Oh yes.

[Terebinthia]

I like the look of the longsword for my Superior Soul, actually, as a debuffer.

Wonder what it looks like if you give it just to a lawful person... When I've done my Mabar duties I may eat an alignment change to lawful neutral on Lama and go hunting for it. Anyone want to help?

[sweez]

Anyone want to help?

No

[FuzzyDuck81]

The sword looks interesting, though shouldnt it be silver & not cold iron, in keeping with the fine tradition of having a bane weapon for the boss in the bosses own loot chest?

[sweez]

The sword looks interesting, though shouldnt it be silver & not cold iron, in keeping with the fine tradition of having a bane weapon for the boss in the bosses own loot chest?

So, kinda like in DQ/Chrono? Oh, wait

[RedDragonScale]

IIRC, wasn't the Holy Avenger in 1st Ed. AD&D +10 against Chaotic Evil opponents??

There's no weapon in DDO to my knowledge that acts differently against so specific an alignment (but there is Stability which while not being a weapon, is specifically targeted for True Neutral-types). Couldn't we then just make this new VoD sword +10 to everything of Evil alignment instead? Maybe even make it 2d8 damage?

I would not be in favor of making it a Bastard Sword/Great Sword nor would I be in favor of modifying the traditional Longsword's crit profile for it. The +10 to Hit and Damage vs. Evil and the damage dice increase to 2d8 would be just fine IMHO.


I REALLY do like the idea of this sword. It just needs a little tweeking though. Great job Devs!

[Qezuzu]

Give that poor thing Metalline! It's completely useless against Devils, which Paladins are supposed to excel against.

Add a Lightning-strike like enchantment, but for thematic reasons, make it Good damage, eg. "Punishing Strike: This weapon has a chance to hit its target with a painful amount of holy damage." Requires Paladin capstone.

Base damage to 2d8, crit multiplier to x3. Enhancement bonus to 1/2 Paladin level.

Have the Greater Dispel effect be CL (20+1/2 Paladin level+d20) against (11+enemy CL).

[elraido]

Good start to the weapon. Needs some tweeking though.

Base damage, either increase it to 2d8 or make the crit multiplier x3
Add banishing

[mystafyi]

Have the Greater Dispel effect be CL (20+1/2 Paladin level+d20) against (11+enemy CL).

Yes so it would be perfect for dispelling dots and other debuffs on bosses. worse then useless effect since mobs typically dont have buffs on them.

[elraido]

Give that poor thing Metalline! It's completely useless against Devils, which Paladins are supposed to excel against.

Add a Lightning-strike like enchantment, but for thematic reasons, make it Good damage, eg. "Punishing Strike: This weapon has a chance to hit its target with a painful amount of holy damage." Requires Paladin capstone.

Base damage to 2d8, crit multiplier to x3. Enhancement bonus to 1/2 Paladin level.

Have the Greater Dispel effect be CL (20+1/2 Paladin level+d20) against (11+enemy CL).

You do realize you just made it fly right past Epic Chimeras Fang in terms of damage, right? Like it waved to it and just kept right on going.