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    Default 1 rogue, 18 ranger, 1 WHAT?!!?

    This character is on her way to being the above, but the "what" part I can't decide.

    Helf Cleric Dilettante, arcane archer.

    Intent is to be self-sufficient and have some survivability. My last ranger AA was a nightmare on that last part, but really versatile on the self-sufficient front... I guess you could say she could get to ANY boss just to die.

    I've thought wiz/sorc for arcane wands, but her UMD is going to be very high, so I dunno if that gains me anything over the +2 will saves and a few spell points.

    Also thought monk for the feat and the extra +1 all saves.

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    Any constructive suggestions on what and when to take the other level (even if it's just to stay ranger for the last one?

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    monk or fighter

    google the exploiter build.

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    Rogue... gives evasion...

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    cleric .. go gimp =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by countfitz View Post
    Rogue... gives evasion...
    uhhhh... no.
    I'm hoping your were trying to be funny.

    Fighter is best really. Fighter does what monk does without locking your alignment...

    I like Barbarian though. Faster movement and rage is nice.
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    18 ranger gives already evasion, so an other rogue is more or less useless. Figther for the extra feat or monk for the AC. I would prefer monk because it is true that the AC wont do much for you in epics and elite raids, but it is a useful nearly everywhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countfitz View Post
    Rogue... gives evasion...
    Umm, unless I'm mistaken, Rangers get Evasion at level 9. (Like the 2 posts above that ninjaed me stated)

    I went Fighter on my Tempest Ranger, but only because I didn't have Monk. As a bonus I could then go True Neutral (Monks have to be lawful) and use crafted Superior Stability items.
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    I have 1 barbarian on my exploiter build, and very happy with that.

    But he is a tempest build, an arcane archer might benefit more from something else.

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    Good to know!

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    This should be moved to the melee classes forum area.

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    monk.

    You've got enough wisdom to get a decent enough pyjama AC.

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    Monk is the most optimal choice here, although barb speed could be fun too, if you don't need that feat

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    For an AA I would actually consider wizard it is like essentially getting 2 feats. First you don't have to take mental toughness and can just use one ap instead and you get the wizzy bonus feat. Best used for maximize imo for some healing goodness. Should give you a pretty healthy boost to sp also.
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    What I'm having trouble with is why you want 18 levels of ranger on this build. ranger capstone is nice for archers, but between 11 and 20 there is nothing ranger gives that benefits an archer(other than AA enhancements that you have racial access to without ranger..), I guess unless you really like the ranger spells and favored enemy??
    Really depends on your playstyle but you could greatly benefit from 4-8 levels of fighter for more feats... or just way more levels of rogue for more sneak attack and some boosts to those roguely skills(rangers arent too far behind here but its still nice). The exploiter takes 18 ranger for tempest III. You aren't worried about that here. 11rgr/9rog still gets full manyshot and also gets 5d6 sneak attack(plus enhancements).

    If you really are into those ranger spells, I would definitely take your last level as wiz. thats two extra feats and a bunch more mana(as well as echoes of power), not to mention I'd guess you solo a lot based on your goal of versatility. grease sucks in party but its real nice for a solo archer. even if everything saves it still slows them down while you plunk those arrows.

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    Had not looked at fighter or barb, so let me look.

    I COMPLETELY forgot echoes of power and maximize, so I am leaning wiz now.

    Can't do monk on second thought because of alignment (not buying alignment switch).

    And finally, ranger 18 for slayer arrows.

    I am trying to give AA/ranged a chance - I have two monks (one pure, one tempest)who do very well at melee.

    I made pwiesela's build and deleted it - too pure, heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countfitz View Post
    Rogue... gives evasion...
    9 ranger which he/she already has gives evasion...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by fco-karatekid View Post
    Had not looked at fighter or barb, so let me look.

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    I am trying to give AA/ranged a chance - I have two monks (one pure, one tempest)who do very well at melee.

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    you mean you have two rangers right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalHazard View Post
    you mean you have two rangers right?
    nope, one ranger tempest monk, and one pure monk - in other words, didn't wanna try another melee-focused build (aside from the normal switching to melee close-range).

    EDIT: which was directed at the folks recommending an exploiter offshoot.
    Last edited by fco-karatekid; 10-25-2011 at 08:25 AM.

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    Default Monk

    I'm working up an exploiter variant and I went monk. I took monk at level 2 and the AC bonus has been helpful. Yes, it delays Tempest I by a level, but she'll be fine with the delay. Playing for a streak has you running quests 2 levels later than you might, if that influences your tmiing choices.

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    Thanks all - with yer food for thought, I am going wiz w/maximize. I chose that vs. empower healing due to previous experience that showed the decreased hp/sp efficiency for a larger healing burst at higher level content is where she needs to be to stay alive and still fight.

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