Help with Drow Rogue1/Wizard19 Palemaster

[Leduc1989]

Hi. Im not very good writing in english... i'll try my best.

This is multiclass build.
First lvl take as Rogue (for extra skill points).

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Zzdtriz Duque
Level 20 True Neutral Drow Male
(1 Rogue \ 19 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 224
Spell Points: 1705 
BAB: 9\9\14
Fortitude: 9
Reflex: 9
Will: 11

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength              8                 10                   10
Dexterity            10                 12                   12
Constitution         14                 16                   16
Intelligence         20                 27                   30
Wisdom                8                 10                   10
Charisma             12                 14                   14

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               4                  5                    5
Bluff                 5                  6                    6
Concentration         4                 26                   26
Diplomacy             4                  5                    5
Disable Device        9                 32.5                 33.5
Haggle                5                  6                    6
Heal                 -1                  0                    0
Hide                  4                  5                    5
Intimidate            1                  2                    2
Jump                  3                  4                    4
Listen               -1                  0                    2
Move Silently         4                  5                    5
Open Lock             4                 18                   18
Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                5                 10                   10
Search                9                 33                   40
Spot                  3                  4                    6
Swim                 -1                  0                    0
Tumble                1                  2                    2
Use Magic Device      5                 25                   25

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell


Level 3 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness


Level 4 (Wizard)


Level 5 (Wizard)


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Necromancy


Level 7 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Perception I
Enhancement: Elven Perception II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Improved Search I
Enhancement: Combustive Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Combustive Spellcasting II
Enhancement: Deadly Flame I
Enhancement: Deadly Flame II
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation I
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation II
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation III
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II
Enhancement: Wizard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master I


Level 8 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Wizard Wand and Scroll Mastery II


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness
Enhancement: Combustive Spellcasting III


Level 10 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation V
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar III
Enhancement: Wizard Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Enhancement: Summon Skeletal Knight


Level 11 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Empower Spell


Level 12 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence III


Level 13 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master II
Enhancement: Summon Blackbone Knight
Enhancement: Shroud of the Wraith


Level 14 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar IV
Enhancement: Summon Blackbone Archer
Enhancement: Summon Skeleton Archer
Enhancement: Summon Skeletal Mage


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
Enhancement: Summon Blackbone Mage


Level 16 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell


Level 17 (Wizard)


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment


Level 19 (Wizard)


Level 20 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Elven Perception III
Enhancement: Elven Perception IV
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation VI
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation VII
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Wizard Subtle Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master III

Enhancements are not in the right order or taken in the right moment.
I wish you take a look and tell what u think.
And correcting me if need.

Ok. Thats all.
Thank you.

[Faent]

If you want to splash your wizzie in this way, you need to splash 18 WIZ / 2 ROG. This nets you Evasion. Then take Insightful Reflexes. (Every endgame wizzie needs this feat. But if you have Evasion, you're insane for not taking it.)

A wizard's main stat is INT. INT determines skill points, so wizzies get tons of skill points. You don't need to splash rogue to get skill points. If you're splashing ROG just for skill points, you're doing it wrong.

Splashing a wizzie is a very bad idea unless you want to be an evasive trapper. You want that wizzie capstone. No remotely competent group ever needs a trapper. If you're running with gimps who don't know content, then trap skills can be worthwhile.

Every competent end-game wizzie maxes INT and CON. Dump extra points into STR and whatever else you like. Half points in skills are worthless. If you have 21.5, you should be at 21 instead.

A wizzie doesn't need Open Lock. You have the Knock spell.

[unbongwah]

I agree with Faent: you should go for rogue 2 and add Insightful Reflexes. Or to paraphrase another poster from another thread - go for capstone or Evasion. I would also dump CHA for STR; +1 UMD is no big deal, but getting Enfeebled to helplessness sucks. Plus how else will you haul back all your filthy loot? A couple extra comments:

• It looks like you want to be a summoner. Unfortunately, summoning in DDO still basically sucks (except maybe for Artificers). But if you're committed to giving it a go, I suggest taking Augment Summoning early on; later on, if/when you see the light, you can swap it out for another metamagic and drop the skeletal minions.
• If you're new to DDO, I recommend putting your extra pts into Spot instead of Open Lock. As mentioned, you will get the Knock spell (or can use wands), so you don't have to have the OL skill. OTOH, Spot is pretty handy if you don't know where the traps are.
• Your enhs could use some work. In particular, don't rely just on fire spells; spread your dmg enhs around a bit more.

Think I have a drow rogue 2 / wiz 18 build already; I'll post it when I get home.

[Leduc1989]

First. Thank you.

Ok, I will raise my 13lvl as a rogue instead of wizard, I'll get evasion and insightful reflexes.
I think u are right. Summoning sucks. Ill use that enhanments for spread the elements dmg.

If u have a wizard/rogue 2 i will like to see it.
Thank you, again.

[Munkenmo]

First. Thank you.

Ok, I will raise my 13lvl as a rogue instead of wizard, I'll get evasion and insightful reflexes.
I think u are right. Summoning sucks. Ill use that enhanments for spread the elements dmg.

If u have a wizard/rogue 2 i will like to see it.
Thank you, again.

here's mine

personally i took my rogue levels at 1 and 14, i wanted 12 wizard asap to get the tier2 prestige.

HP looks bad, cause my con gfl item is also my arch magi item, i swap it in after i've finished buffing.

[unbongwah]

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Level 20 True Neutral Drow Female
(2 Rogue \ 18 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 226
Spell Points: 1465 
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 9
Reflex: 19
Will: 10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             10                    10
Dexterity            10                    10
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         20                    30
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             10                    10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               4                     4
Bluff                 0                     0
Concentration         4                    26
Diplomacy             4                    23
Disable Device        9                    33
Haggle                4                    10
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  0                     0
Intimidate            0                     0
Jump                  4                     4
Listen                3                     5
Move Silently         0                     0
Open Lock             4                     4
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                5                    10
Search                9                    35
Spot                  3                     5
Swim                  4                     4
Tumble                4                     4
Use Magic Device      4                    23

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Listen (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Swim (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes


Level 2 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Empower Spell


Level 3 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 5 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 6 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Necromancy
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration


Level 7 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Glacial Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Combustive Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Kinetic Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Deadly Ice I
Enhancement: Deadly Flame I
Enhancement: Deadly Kinetics I
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation I
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation I
Enhancement: Storm Manipulation I
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation I
Enhancement: Force Manipulation I
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Enhancement: Wizard Subtle Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
Enhancement: Wizard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Wizard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master I
Enhancement: Shroud of the Zombie


Level 8 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 9 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 10 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+8)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 11 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 12 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness


Level 13 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 14 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation II
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation II
Enhancement: Force Manipulation II
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
Enhancement: Wizard Subtle Spellcasting II
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence III
Enhancement: Wizard Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master II
Enhancement: Shroud of the Vampire
Enhancement: Shroud of the Wraith


Level 15 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell


Level 16 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1.5)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 17 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell


Level 18 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration


Level 19 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 20 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation III
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation V
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation III
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Force Manipulation III
Enhancement: Force Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Force Manipulation V
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration III
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar III
Enhancement: Wizard Subtle Spellcasting III
Enhancement: Shroud of the Lich
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master III

There's plenty of room for tweaking this build: e.g., taking SF & GSF Enchantment instead of Spell Pen & GSP; taking less Spell Pen enhs for more dmg enhs; putting extra skill pts into, say, Spot & Balance rather than Diplomacy & Haggle; etc. It can also be done without any tomes; but if you do have tomes, INT & CON are the priorities.