Report on SWTOR -- not what ya think

[Malidane]

Report on SWTOR –

I have had the luck of being invited to the beta for this new and upcoming game that many may be thinking of migrating to. After putting this game under the microscope for a few days and really getting into it, I have a way to describe it – WOW with a Star Wars Theme. I have been able to get 2 toons to level 17 and there is no control over how your character develops and everything is based on gear.

I personally love DDO for the variety of ways you can totally customize a class(not to mention multi-classing and True Reincarnating) .. From the current fundamentals of SWTOR non of that is possible and will never be(No Enhancement/Feat like pools to choose from to separate your self from the rest). All might as well be clones. I know it’s Beta but fundamentals will not change and the release date is too close for changes.

It became boring and tedious after about one day of play – There are FLASH points in which a little movie like scenario is shown to address each situation, but how many times can you watch the same move over and over. If you wish to go and play WOW again – GOOD LUCK..

Much as I like Star Wars – I’m very disappointed they applied the kiddie/dumb version of MMO development to this..

My marks: 1-10

Graphics:7
Voice Acting: 8
Game Play: 5
Character development (for real players):2




…. If any of you have tried the beta … please comment


Long Live DDO … Just keep the updates coming and I better not see + 4 Tomes in the God forsaken DDO Store DEVS..

[Esserbe]

Surely no-one is surprised? Bioware's attempts at making RPG rulesets of their own have all fallen extremely flat, to expect them to make something inspired for a MMO is to expect far too much from such a mediocre developer.

It's World of Star Wars, nothing else.

[Pfold]

Just curious about a couple of things...


The lag, what is it like? I believe they have been doing stress tests on the servers. What's been your average ping?

The combat, is it twitch? What is it like?

How much content does there appear to be?

[Uska]

Just curious about a couple of things...


The lag, what is it like? I believe they have been doing stress tests on the servers. What's been your average ping?

The combat, is it twitch? What is it like?

How much content does there appear to be?

Combat is wow styled not ddo so no it isn't twitch

[Memnir]

No, that is exactly what I thought OR would be.

[Symar-FangofLloth]

no, That Is exactly What I Thought Or Would Be.

Qft

[Uska]

No, that is exactly what I thought OR would be.

Ditto I gave up on it a long time ago

[learst]

Thanks for the review. Though I've to point out that this probably belongs in the Off-topic Chat section.

[Tocawe]

not what ya think

Wrong, it sounds almost exactly like what I thought .

But no character customization AT ALL? I thought they would give you at least some customization, something like the perk points or whatever they were called in WOW.

I guess the classes in the game are the standard 3 classes (Tank, DPS, Healer) with just a few different flavors?

[Auran82]

Wait, there's something in DDO other than casters and favored souls?

Since when?

[Afyndax]

You hit on one thing.. the cutscenes... but really didn´t mention the other big drag on the game.. travel times.

Honestly, the gameplay is just too slow and disjointed. You spend so much time watching movies, listening to long, drawn out quest givers (voice acting).. and then just traveling...

I actually played WOW until recently and enjoyed it for the most part (besides the endgame grind).. but I think even WOW players won´t like SWTOR just because of the pacing... WOW players are very used to getting to the action quick.

Many players will not like it because it is on rails (ala wow), but even more will like it because those rails are very slow.

[knightgf]

All that hype for nothing eh?

You'd be better off taking that money you'd spend on World of The Old Republic and using it to buy Mass Effect 3 when it is released. I would. Not a MMORPG of course, but still, a better space-theme game.

[Delt]

I don't see how SWTOR is ***anything*** like WoW. I mean...at all. If you want to have one legitimate slam on the game, it's that there is zero end game.

[Grenada]

That's at least a sign that not everyone is moving to SWTOR.

The only drop off in people is gonna happen in November now, AFAIK. (November 11, to be exact). And that will only last a few months.

[Ivan_Milic]

That's at least a sign that not everyone is moving to SWTOR.

The only drop off in people is gonna happen in November now, AFAIK. (November 11, to be exact). And that will only last a few months.

Exactly.

[Krago]

I got to try it as well and it did seem a little flat in terms of character development, but DDO started out the same way as well.

It was enjoyable, but not enough to keep me from the Cove.

[smatt]

Pretty much what I've heard from a couple in Beta..... Pretty mcuh what I expected.. It will be big because of the money and name behind it.. Then it will drop off....

DDO is it's own worst enemy.... Poor Producer leadership.... Adding so so content yet living with a game that overall is running like a 50 year old Ford Pinto...

[Vanquishedfo]

I do agree that SWTOR is wow with glowsticks. very sad waste of what should of been the next D20 MMO had they had the sense to use the same rules they had in KOTOR.

On the long live DDO note, you are net yet aware of the bigger picture and the near certainty DDO is done in 2014 i guess. Simply put thats the year Turbines lease on the D&D rights come up, WOTC is very unlikely to renew them as they are putting thier support behind the new 4E D&D mmo coming out by cryptic studios under the umbrella of Perfect World. Called Never Winter Nights Online its just simple logic with WOTC's history to expect them to deny turbine renewel and kill off DDO so NWNO wont have to compete with its older cousin.

This is why last year I put 400 into DDO in support and this year I wont spend a dime as the future has gone from hopeful to a near certain date of experation.

[Ruphus]

I do agree that SWTOR is wow with glowsticks. very sad waste of what should of been the next D20 MMO had they had the sense to use the same rules they had in KOTOR.

On the long live DDO note, you are net yet aware of the bigger picture and the near certainty DDO is done in 2014 i guess. Simply put thats the year Turbines lease on the D&D rights come up, WOTC is very unlikely to renew them as they are putting thier support behind the new 4E D&D mmo coming out by cryptic studios under the umbrella of Perfect World. Called Never Winter Nights Online its just simple logic with WOTC's history to expect them to deny turbine renewel and kill off DDO so NWNO wont have to compete with its older cousin.

This is why last year I put 400 into DDO in support and this year I wont spend a dime as the future has gone from hopeful to a near certain date of experation.

I would have to disagree, WOTC is a business, and if they can continue to milk a little more $$ out of old rules systems, by gosh they will. Will they openly support it and advertise and so forth? Probably not, but they will not turn down a nice, basically free, paycheck from something they do not have to put any real work into.

[dunklezhan]

I would have to disagree, WOTC is a business, and if they can continue to milk a little more $$ out of old rules systems, by gosh they will. Will they openly support it and advertise and so forth? Probably not, but they will not turn down a nice, basically free, paycheck from something they do not have to put any real work into.

This might be the reason behind a lot of the changes to the underlying 3rd ed ruleset within DDO - perhaps if DDO moves away from recognisable core rules, Turbine are hoping WoTC will be more inclined to let them keep the license because it can be advertised based on pure setting (which still exists under 4e) not an outdated ruleset*.


*outdated, but still way better than 4e for tabletop. However my first play of 4e I thought 'hey this is a video game with cards and dice'. As the night went on, I rapidly concluded that I would definitely play 4e the MMO, because that would work really well, but that I would never, ever again play it as a PnP game because it was teh suxx0r.