Would this happen on Khyber?

[Bengalih]

It seems that we Khyberians get a little bit of a wrap as being a little elitist, rough around the edges, or general a-holes. Maybe we bring it on ourselves - maybe we revel in it a little.

However I was surprised when I read this story and especially the majority of mostly positive responses:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=346012

It seems to me that were someone to do a move like this on Khyber, even with a public apology, they would have a long long time to live it down.

It's times like these that I am glad to be a Khyberian.

[SoloPhalanx]

what he did was a ****** move. certainly wouldn't appreciate it

[twix]

With this thread its official.... Argo is THE king of drama....sorry kyber. ..you lasted a while but we all knew this would happen sooner or later

[Caliban]

With this thread its official.... Argo is THE king of drama....sorry kyber. ..you lasted a while but we all knew this would happen sooner or later

You are welcome to it.

[sweez]

That was pretty sweet. One can only hope it happens on Khyber, repeatedly.

[NaturalHazard]

If someone on khyber had a problem with the raid leader they would of just put up their own lfm, and did the raid faster than the original group. Not waste 30minutes of their own time to waste 30 minutes of 10 other innocent people to get back at one guy who annoyed them.

wow whata TOUGH GUY!!!


it is kinda funny though, but still.

[Bengalih]

If someone on khyber had a problem with the raid leader they would of just put up their own lfm, and did the raid faster than the original group. Not waste 30minutes of their own time to waste 30 minutes of 10 other innocent people to get back at one guy who annoyed them.

wow whata TOUGH GUY!!!


it is kinda funny though, but still.

Yes, exactly. That is the think about us on Khyber. We might have attitudes, but we want to complete the quest...we want the xp...we want the loot...we want to be the HERO. In the pursuit of that we can sometimes be dramatic.

That Shroud post was NOT even an apology - it was a clear and simple gloat of a d**k move.

It's not even like the Shroud group was gimp to the point that they couldn't complete a Shroud. Even the OP admits that someone screwed them over in Part 4 by hitting the portal before shrine. Then goes on to state that massive lag killed almost everyone in the party. He then, more out of luck (or the fact he was piking in the background) was able to tick off the few remaining HPs of Harry - salvaged the quest.

He could have been the HERO, but instead shows he was a ZERO. And his half-a**ed, double-sided apology only shows he would do it again.

It's funny in the way that a "Wacked Out Video" is. But you would never want to be a part of it - nor want to be the cause of it.

[noinfo]

It seems that we Khyberians get a little bit of a wrap as being a little elitist, rough around the edges, or general a-holes. Maybe we bring it on ourselves - maybe we revel in it a little.

However I was surprised when I read this story and especially the majority of mostly positive responses:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=346012

It seems to me that were someone to do a move like this on Khyber, even with a public apology, they would have a long long time to live it down.

It's times like these that I am glad to be a Khyberian.

I can't remember the last time since the cap was 16 that I would have been in that position even with epic lag. Still the leader knew what he was getting into with that guild sooo.

Though I have gotta say I personally would see this as funny and not bother me. For those people still gearing up and starting though I feel sorry for.

[Shakanos]

It's all just a clever ploy from Turbine to make people buy more self rez cakes from the DDO store.

Mnemonic pots 2.0 - pay2loot.

[SHOCK_and_AWE]

I think there could have been a more balanced move by the perpetrator of the funny-yet-rude stunt. For example, he could have just copypasted the /tells between the leader and himself to party chat at the end. Voila - leader embarrassed by circumstances, whole party can appreciate the irony, and yet nobody gets screwed.

[smeggy1384]

If it was me in the group, and needing the loot (and a rez) hidden in those chests oh so close i would have been more mad at the leader of the group than the one who survived but recalled. Was made clear to him from the start not to hit altars.. and in a rather rude way. The leader could have turned the player down rather than assume he'd hit the altar. Did the leader take time to point out to everyone not to hit altars? Don't suppose any of it matters.. just a game. I'd probably just release and go take a break, then have a laugh about what happened.

[Bengalih]

I think there could have been a more balanced move by the perpetrator of the funny-yet-rude stunt. For example, he could have just copypasted the /tells between the leader and himself to party chat at the end. Voila - leader embarrassed by circumstances, whole party can appreciate the irony, and yet nobody gets screwed.

Yeah agreed. Had he simply strolled over the altar, whistling, hit it, looted the chest, rezzed one of the other cleric/FvS and then finished out (alternatively, if he wanted to not be a jerk at all he could have rezzed people first to allow them to finish out.)

He could have posted either of those stories and it would have showed his "Hero" and also the ironic situation with some pie on the face of the leader. Seems that he would have respect all around with that move, instead of disdain.

[Bengalih]

I can't remember the last time since the cap was 16 that I would have been in that position even with epic lag. Still the leader knew what he was getting into with that guild sooo.

Though I have gotta say I personally would see this as funny and not bother me. For those people still gearing up and starting though I feel sorry for.

Well, firstly this is on another server - so we can't speak about lag on it. Additionally, whether it was that bad or not - the OP seems to say it was, and that's all that mattered. Had he just started healing at that point (instead of presumably piking near the back) they may never have gotten in that mess.

I also honestly don't think you would find this as funny - unless it was a group of guild mates who were having one at each other. For a PuG group of any kind, even if you are screwing one person not at fault at any way you have done a disservice to the community. I agree, hearing the story makes you want to laugh a bit - but it's not really funny.

[Bengalih]

If it was me in the group, and needing the loot (and a rez) hidden in those chests oh so close i would have been more mad at the leader of the group than the one who survived but recalled. Was made clear to him from the start not to hit altars.. and in a rather rude way. The leader could have turned the player down rather than assume he'd hit the altar. Did the leader take time to point out to everyone not to hit altars? Don't suppose any of it matters.. just a game. I'd probably just release and go take a break, then have a laugh about what happened.

Well, wish you would list your toons (as well as everyone else that things this is acceptable behavior) so people can be aware you condone and might attempt similar tactics. Maybe Khyberians do behave this foolishly?

There was obviously something more at work in the OP with the leader asking this particular person about the Altars. Something to do with his guild it appears. I can only infer that the particular guild of the perpetrator runs Speed Runs and even in PuGs just hits the altar immediately, and that they have done it repeatedly. The leader, not wanting to do a speed run, for the good of his party made double sure that a person from said guild would honor that.

Most importantly, the perpetrator didn't have to join the group - but when he did he made a decision to contribute as best as possible to the completion of the quest. There were 10 fully innocent victims here - one of them could have easily been any of us. I can guarantee that if I had to go through a 40 minute Shroud to have it end that way, that the healer and not the leader would end up on my list for eternity.

[Bengalih]

With this thread its official.... Argo is THE king of drama....sorry kyber. ..you lasted a while but we all knew this would happen sooner or later

I would also like to note that I think I may be regaining the crown for us by taking other server's drama and making it our own!

[smeggy1384]

Well, wish you would list your toons (as well as everyone else that things this is acceptable behavior) so people can be aware you condone and might attempt similar tactics. Maybe Khyberians do behave this foolishly?

Never said i'd do anything like that, or that i felt it was acceptable(Do you? You're the one putting words in others mouths).

My point was the leader of the group assumed based on his guild tag he would go hitting altars to screw them over. They had no way of knowing what the player would do, but assumed the worst and treated them like they already had done it to them. I know in real life if you go around treating others like dirt based on how they look you can expect the same back from them. Treat them with a bit of respect, or perhaps ask if they know not to hit the altars (having never run the raid i wouldn't have known, though i never mess with the clicky thing in raids/dungeons until i know their purpose) and you get a much smoother run, and can perhaps teach others in the process.

Ran with some nice raid leaders on khyber who offered to take time after a raid to explain things i had missed out on, but rather than take up their time i can go look it up online, some nice maps and pointers for all of that.

[Attropos]

It seems that we Khyberians get a little bit of a wrap as being a little elitist, rough around the edges, or general a-holes. Maybe we bring it on ourselves - maybe we revel in it a little.

However I was surprised when I read this story and especially the majority of mostly positive responses:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=346012

It seems to me that were someone to do a move like this on Khyber, even with a public apology, they would have a long long time to live it down.

It's times like these that I am glad to be a Khyberian.

Yes it was a **** move, but it's one that I can sympathize with. If it was most groups, I think the OP of the other posts would have happily hit the altar.

However, he was antagonized again and again by his fellow party members. I don't know about you guys but when there are a bunch of people who act likes ******** towards you for an entire raid, and only when they need something from you they change their attitude, I get a bit ****ed as well.

I wouldn't blame the AOK member, I'd blame the people in the party who talked trash to him, and the terrible DPS that should have finished harry off before the lag spike.

[twix]

Kyber you disappoint me you used to be so interesting ..

[bandyman1]

Khyber's the land of Carebears now???

Good God; What happened to you?

[Ungood]

I have no idea if this would happen on Khyber, but on my server, it's easier to click decline then to type out a request to not hit the alter. Guess which one would happen.