+3 Supreme Tome - 3495 points - Wow!

[gloopygloop]

Worthless semantics, and merely an egg-or-chicken matter.

Let's see how long the game lasts, contents added and bugs getting fixed if the DDO store is removed.

Browsing the forum often, it's easy to notice which stance certain posters generally have, regarding the certain issues. That's human nature, I suppose.

So... after reading several of my posts that all express the same opinion, you have now discovered that I hold that opinion? I suppose it is human nature to have opinions.

Also, I don't mind the DDO store. I think that the DDO store is a great source of Turbine revenue. I even do know that Turbine uses revenue from the DDO store to fund their general operations and that new content/bug fixes/etc. all come from that general operations budget.

I just think that it's silly to think that the extra profit that Turbine generates will somehow translate into a game with significantly fewer bugs/more content unless they reinvest that profit into the game itself. And it's the hope of future revenue that drives that reinvestment, not any past profits that they have realized.

[katz]

Content gets us to use the store.
The store doesn't create new content.

really? so where, pray tell, do they acquire the income to PAY to develop new stuff for the game?

Personally I'm glad to see the huge price tag. It will at least keep the "value" of +3 tomes where it should be and a full set no less.

Also, considering a +1 costs 1495 and a +2 costs 2495 its exactly what I figured it was gonna be. Now did they follow the same pricing trend on the singles? Should be around 850+/- if they did.

pretty close to on the money, sir. singles are 895.

[Sydril]

So that is about 5-6 hours of wages at minimum wage, or 1-2 yards of grass cut or 100s of grind hours.

priceless

[Qhualor]

After writing a lengthy message I decided just to say, WOW (the explative, not that other MMO...)

I just can't afford that - and I am very disappointed, it has dampened my enthusiasm to play tonight.

Is this the future of "free to play" MMO's?

Heck, I almost can't afford DDO as it is.

Awww, it would mean you would have to... um... grind for it? Think of it this way. For 3495 you can eliminate 100 shroud completions or 300 days of easy grinding. You could speed up the process and do other things. So in just a month, 2 or maybe 3 at most, you could be ready to tr. You could eliminate the grind for tomes and be ahead of people like me who prefer actually working for their loot.

[LoveNeverFails]

Um... That is ridiculously low for a SUPREME +3 tome. when first reading this I thought it was for a single, which would have made me nod and say whatever, BUT, this is for all 6 stats. Enough to make me SERIOUSLY consider dropping the 50$ for the point pack, and TRing my cleric today...

Turbine, I probably would have priced the supreme a bit higher...

[Ziindarax]

As others have said it's quite a bit cheaper then it should be IMO. Was expecting a price tag at least 5k, I mean
don't forget at the very least this is 120+ shroud completions if you're lucky. The fact it's being sold at all
is borderline making it cheap is just adding insult to injury.

$30+ dollars for a bit of code that you will not retain upon TR'ing is HARDLY cheap.

[Pape_27]

Good.
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+3 Tomes shouldn't be in the Store.

Fixed that for ya

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[jingseng]

Write anything you want.

Opinions don't matter here: Cuz ranters gonna rant.

No one was on the fence here. You either were for, against, or didn't give a ****. Now that the price is known, It's the same... both extremes and a third group of people who'd rather live and let play.

[Sothary]

After writing a lengthy message I decided just to say, WOW (the explative, not that other MMO...)

I just can't afford that - and I am very disappointed, it has dampened my enthusiasm to play tonight.

Is this the future of "free to play" MMO's?

Heck, I almost can't afford DDO as it is.

That is why it is called PTW (Pay to Win)

[mystafyi]

the game was going to die. Which is why we have the store.

you seem to have forgot the vast and mysterious time before F2P and ddostore. this year+ time frame was the direct result of a lawsuit. so the lawsuit almost killed the game, not the lack of a ddostore.

ddo was revived by microtransactions and a landslide of new content in the past 2 years. some of this content was funded by the ddostore, there can be no doubt of this, but alot of this content was already developed prior to the game going F2P.

then there was codemasters going under and players from that moving to turbine, that also helped revive player numbers.

to simply assert that the ddostore saved the day is wrong.

in reference to your assumption that ddostore revenue will be used soley to fund new content and bug fixes is erronious for the simple fact that turbine recently sold out to time warner. If you think time warner will not take a big cut of any profits off the top you are living in a dream.

[Robai]

What a disappointment.
Why +3 tomes are so cheap?

+2 tome = 595 TP
+3 tome= 895 TP

I don't see much difference here, i.e. +3 tomes cost similar price as +2 tomes.
If you could compare unbound tomes in AH then you would see the real difference in prices.

I'm sure that in AH the price of +3 tomes would be like 10 times of +2 tomes.
In DDO store +3 tomes should cost at least 5 times more than +2 tomes.

It's so easy to get +3 tomes now. Just pay to win, no need to grind at all.

[rokes]

What a disappointment.
Why +3 tomes are so cheap?

+2 tome = 595 TP
+3 tome= 895 TP

I don't see much difference here, i.e. +3 tomes cost similar price as +2 tomes.
If you could compare unbound tomes in AH then you would see the real difference in prices.

I'm sure that in AH the price of +3 tomes would be like 10 times of +2 tomes.
In DDO store +3 tomes should cost at least 5 times more than +2 tomes.

It's so easy to get +3 tomes now. Just pay to win, no need to grind at all.

That's a bit of a exaggeration isn't it?? around 3k tps for a tome?
But I do agree 895 is too low. Maybe something around 1200 would be fine

[Dwarfo]

big middle finger to those who grinded for these in raids like vod/hound/reaver.

[grandeibra]

Originally Posted by DanteEnFuego
So that is about 5-6 hours of wages at minimum wage, or 1-2 yards of grass cut or 100s of grind hours.

Haha. very well put

And ye any (more or less) raid only loot they really shouldn't be in the store imho

[Qaliya]

It's so easy to get +3 tomes now. Just pay to win, no need to grind at all.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

[llyrnionfor]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again (before anyone can stop me): Having these items in the DDO Store is a Good Thing (TM).

Actually, anything that eases the grind is a Good Thing.

Are +3 tomes cheap? I believe so. Not because of some comparison to the price of +2 tomes (I consider that somewhat irrelevant), but because the alternative to the store +3 tomes is... grinding.

[Clay]

Do you honestly believe this is what they spend DDO Store money on?

If they fix this bug after this +3 tome sale, I might start thinking about this being a valid argument, but I'm not holding my breath.

No, I do not believe that DDO store money goes to dev time directly, but I do believe that as long as Turbine is making money the game will be around. If the game is not making money, I think the game will not be here much longer.

Do I like think the company is selling out? sure. I shore do like the sale of +3 tomes in the Turbine Store more than some travesty like the Offer Wall.

[gloopygloop]

really? so where, pray tell, do they acquire the income to PAY to develop new stuff for the game?

There's a big difference between allowing something to happen and causing it to happen.

If your door is locked, your key will allow you to get into your house, but your key certainly isn't causing you to get into your house.

[Ziindarax]

TBH, my loot luck is very terrible when it comes to +3/+4 tomes. As tempted as I am to buy a +3 supreme ability tome, I am not really sure if it's such a good deal if the tomes will not be retained upon TR'ing. :/

[Afyndax]

+ 1, agree with op, a bit too expensive. getting too expensive up in this free MMO. i think a store discount for VIP would be nice. 500tp a month just isn't reason enough to stay VIP.

This is NOT a free MMO... it is a free MMO if you want to play with the basics. If this was a free MMO, it would have been closed down years ago. This is a completely optional item, people have been running raids for years without having +3 tomes in every stat... I am willing to bet every quest in the game has been done 10,000 times with players without +3 tomes.