Demon Queen DR Breakers...

[Arshan]

What it comes down to is Tarnesh is better than you so your argument is irrelevant. Who are you again? Because I certainly don't recognize you which means you're probably nobody.

Thanks for that but as far as i had fun i still didnt have DR breakers and even if i defended myself in a (expected) funny way, i could have done better, and this run was done with really competent people and even if i was kinda pricky it was mainly for the joke, and the fun of the situation. Was more about giving **** to myself than anything.
There is no reason to say that i'm better since in this special case i was WRONG to not carry DR breakers. My playstyle wasnt bad on my run but i was lacking basics, and i admit it. It's not about being good or bad player here, just about a mistake i made, and that i totally recognize.
In addition, people here didnt blame me for bad playstyle or w/e. Just for missing something that is almost a must have.
I've done my job, was cool but could have been better (see chinese meme =) ).

I totally understand the people that were blaming me for the lack of DR breakers, and it's my job now to change this lack into an nice add of dps.

Hopefully my behavior didn’t hurt anyone, it wasn’t the goal at all I just wanted everyone to take it as a joke or w/e. It’s good to have people to put you back in your right place sometimes, cause you feel untouchable on the top of your X TRs.
You don’t judge a good player only on his toon or his performance, it’s all about many things, and I would be a really bad one if I was just saying “I don’t need DR breaker my base damage is high enough”, more dps is always more dps, and listening to people is a very important part too. I heard people here, and even some people were so mercyfull that they even sent me cold iron peshes (ty hoba ). Of course I’ll pay, but I don’t see why a basic reproach thread should end as a drama. I take this as an advice, even if I already knew it. By doing this run I improved Tarnesh’s dps for the next, and hopefully next time I’ll bring my DR breakers and link them and be proud to fight lailat with them. And maybe it’ll be with OP, we’ll joke about it, and will just be a fun story =) I wish it will be.
Maybe I’m blacklisted now, I hope not since I really meant to just joke on w/e I said or did. I’m all about joke, never meaning to hurt anyone, people get it or not, I don’t mind, I’m ok with everyone, even more with people daring telling me the truth.
So thanks Lol’ for thinking I’m that good, but mainly thanks to those people in that run that made Tarnesh better than he was.
That’s what ddo is about to me toonwise. Improving by sharing knowledge with people, even if obvious it’s always good to remind it to people like me
Last note, I’m pretty convinced Barkarne is a great player with great skills on many toons, while I’m really melee minded and can’t find DR breakers for my main… it’s always nice to be appreciated but I really have bad times hehe ^^
Let’s all hug mkay <3 =) ?

[flech]

Sup with da french and all the "let's all hug" ??!

[Paleus]

What it comes down to is Tarnesh is better than you so your argument is irrelevant. Who are you again? Because I certainly don't recognize you which means you're probably nobody.

Ooh oooh. I know the answer to this one. He was the person leading the raid and who will probably be leading other raids in the future. So yeah, he has every right to limit access to his pugs on whatever basis he wants, same as you have the right not to join his groups. mmkay?

But you know, you're probably right in spirit. Its totally ok for melees not to have to worry about breaking DR in epic raids. I mean, all that will do is make the run last longer so all we have to do is demand that healers will drink a few pots so I dont have to invest anything in DR breaking.

Oh, and you wont recognize my name either, I dont play on your server so my points are totally invalid and safely ignored.

[krackythehoodedone]

Many times i have come accross the AA who insists his Lit 11 Bow is Ok for EADQ2.

She is immune to lightning so put it away. Silver Longbow and Cold Irons arrows better (inc threat)

Triple Pos GS probably the best unless you got your grubby little Robin Hoods on an E Thorn

Or any half decent Cold Iron Holy/Righteous Weapon

Or with Artificers just your best Holy is great so even better

My stunner was doing great damage with an E Ratkiller cos of Johnny Artificer

I think one of the Epic Axes is Cold Iron/Holy and easy peasy to get

Really not worth throwing all your toys out of the Cot for. I demand you transfer to Khyber. We need more people like you.

[Lavek]

Many times i have come accross the AA who insists his Lit 11 Bow is Ok for EADQ2.

She is immune to lightning so put it away. Silver Longbow and Cold Irons arrows better (inc threat)

Triple Pos GS probably the best unless you got your grubby little Robin Hoods on an E Thorn

Or any half decent Cold Iron Holy/Righteous Weapon

Or with Artificers just your best Holy is great so even better

My stunner was doing great damage with an E Ratkiller cos of Johnny Artificer

I lold at fail

also lit2 with cold iron arrows break DR

[NaturalHazard]

YAY the thread about me was expecting it so much =)

First, the reason why i dont craft min II is that they are way to expensive for what they actually can be replaced with (=> cannith crafted +4 holy burst...). Then you'd asked why dont i have these. Just cause i simply cannot afford it technically, because i didnt manage to find cold iron peshes (FOR REAL !=p). Same issue with adamantine, i gotta keep ranging the lord of blades.

If you cant find cold iron khopeshes why not just use cold iron scimitars and put holy, chaotic outsider bane on them? Even though they are not khopeshes they should still do more dps to lailat than your non dr breaking khopeshes would?

oh lol should of read all the other posts, im argueing this point with someone who turned down cold iron peshes cause he wants them to have matching skins. lolz.

[Thalmor]

YAY the thread about me was expecting it so much =)




(mineral aligned hamster of greater Lailat bane, these effects apply on if you are carrying litII in the raid)

+1 for the Boo/Minsc reference ... Loved that game ... BG brought DnD Video Games back from the Abyss!

As a side note I always had Minsc in my party for his RPG effect.

[NaturalHazard]

Was OBVIOUSLY a joke but all good ^^

I know i got a decently furnished trade list but the demand is very low on what i offer, and i'm usually running with less than 5K pp on all toons. Having scrolls is cool but if no one want them...

About larges, i'll be honnest i never run shroud. It's bad i know but i can't stand doing it.
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why not solo sins for larges? I get through there on normal in around 20 or so minutes.

[Paleus]

I lold at fail

also lit2 with cold iron arrows break DR

Typical Greensteel Lit II = 1d10+5 crit on 20 + holy + shock burst + shock blast (with random lightning strike procs which are the real money shot for dps on them)
The Silver Bow = 1d10+2 crit on 19-20 + holy

The point the poster was making was that when you remove all of the lightning damage and lightning procs you are left comparing two bows that only differ by one having +3 damage versus the other having a better crit threat profile. We can safely assume anyone with a lit II can easily get a silver bow, but maybe not craft another GS bow or alchemical. So...yeah a lit II with cold iron arrows breaks DR just like a silver bow, but on a lightning immune mob which bow are you going to choose?

[Lavek]

Typical Greensteel Lit II = 1d10+5 crit on 20 + holy + shock burst + shock blast (with random lightning strike procs which are the real money shot for dps on them)
The Silver Bow = 1d10+2 crit on 19-20 + holy

The point the poster was making was that when you remove all of the lightning damage and lightning procs you are left comparing two bows that only differ by one having +3 damage versus the other having a better crit threat profile. We can safely assume anyone with a lit II can easily get a silver bow, but maybe not craft another GS bow or alchemical. So...yeah a lit II with cold iron arrows breaks DR just like a silver bow, but on a lightning immune mob which bow are you going to choose?

oh.."the silver longbow" as unique item...my apologizes then...

also I would use lit2 again, better base dmg and fort 80% doesnt help much with 19-20 crit ratio :3

[Thaxlsillyia]

i think a mopg or a metaline of righteousness might do more damage than a +5 holy GS khopesh (effectively what you were swinging at her). and gasp i have a couple of them for sale since you are obviously too poor and can only afford cheap stuff like epic marlith chain i will be happy to sell them for just one full chrono set scrolls.

[krackythehoodedone]

Thankyou Paleus that is exactly what i meant.

Mind you an AA should be (IMHO) making a GS Triple Pos because is now lethal Vs Undead, great Vs Lailat and gives you a Raise Clicky. And it's only 12 Larges.

And i'm assuming that the main reason an AA is running about in EADQ2 is the E Thorn. Try EADQ1, more chance of Shard which is the pig to get hold of

Ok having E Mari Chain is not good for your credibility when you then make excuses about not having stuff...Made me laugh tho.

[Bakarne]

Relax, it's all gravy. Like TheDearLeader pointed out, it hasn't just been one person using LitIIs in eDQ. It's very common to have them pinged if I say "Link DR Breakers" in the LFM.

If it weren't for Cannith Crafting, it would have taken forever for my Warchanter to be effective in Amrath and eDQ, given MinIIs are 5 LDS a piece, and I dual wield. Better to save the Larges for 45 HP GS items. I'm just now able to craft +5 shards and Improved Destruction shards, so I'm glad I can now contribute more than just songs and buffs.

[Bengalih]

Mind you an AA should be (IMHO) making a GH Triple Pos because is now lethal Vs Undead, great Vs Lailat and gives you a Raise Clicky. And it's only 12 Larges.

Elaborate on what has changed to make this more lethal? I guess I missed this update...

ty!

[gloopygloop]

Elaborate on what has changed to make this more lethal? I guess I missed this update...

ty!

Pos/Pos/Pos always had Greater Disruption, but before the U9 changes, Greater Disruption was actually less effective than regular Disruption.

Now Greater Disruption gives the "Vorpal" style kill against Undead on a 20, but it also gives +6d6 bane type damage against Undead on every hit.

[Bengalih]

Pos/Pos/Pos always had Greater Disruption, but before the U9 changes, Greater Disruption was actually less effective than regular Disruption.

Now Greater Disruption gives the "Vorpal" style kill against Undead on a 20, but it also gives +6d6 bane type damage against Undead on every hit.

Ah yes...U9...thought there was something newer I missed.

I actually haven't made a triple pos yet, because previous numbers showed that it was only marginally situation-based more useful then LitII. Also had a holy burst of disruption bow that did decent against undeads.

I have tried many bows against the DQ and it seems there is such a minor difference between them (LitII, 3xEarth, Silver, Sinew, various bane). Because of Mabar coming up I may make a 3xPos for fun out there and see if it really does make any noticeable difference in DQ.

Of course, I pretty much only range her on the platform, or when MS is up, otherwise I am twf.

Out of curiosity, I'm interested in what you all feel (because of her high DR and resists) would be considered acceptable dps against the queen per attack?

[zeonardo]

1 - Add one another to the friend list (if it's not yet)

2 - Check to see when each one of you are online

3 - Invite each other to a game party chat

4 - Talk about this.

5 - Or you can go oldscholl and give it a phone/skype call or befriends on FB.

This kind of "you will be banned from ultimate uber epic run of awesomeness because you do Ʃ(0,0000021 x 3cos / (2,3454564 ± Δ12344 - √¾)) less damage than the ubersome X player with heavenly sword of improved great kick*ss" rant threads are boring...

I see you guys are kinda trying to help each other... then why not do this kindly?

[Krelar]

Your Choices are (Khopesh):
Lit II, 1d10+5 (10.5) + 2d6 Holy (7) - 20DR= -2.5 Damage per swing, + all your tasty modifiers. You're starting out with a negative number.
+5 Holy Cold Iron of Evil Outsider Bane, 1d8+7 (11.5) + 2d6 Holy (7) + 2d6 Bane (7) = 25.5 Damage per swing, + all your tasty modifiers. You're starting out 23.5 damage per swing higher with this option.

23.5 More Damage Per Swing, 120 swings per minute (I'm ballparking this number), 3.5 minutes of blades - on - queen = 9870 more HPs of damage you would have done.

Isn't the difference between -2.5 damage and 25.5 damage 28 damage per swing? So more like 11760 extra damage.

[TheDearLeader]

Isn't the difference between -2.5 damage and 25.5 damage 28 damage per swing? So more like 11760 extra damage.

You mean when you subtract a negative number, it becomes positive? XD Yeah, obviously I was typing faster than I was thinking mathematically. Good catch.

The number isn't exact anyway, because the Swings Per Minute is inaccurate. I just wanted to point out that the difference in damage is, indeed, significant.

Edited the other post to reflect correct math, regardless.

[Arshan]

You mean when you subtract a negative number, it becomes positive? XD Yeah, obviously I was typing faster than I was thinking mathematically. Good catch.

The number isn't exact anyway, because the Swings Per Minute is inaccurate. I just wanted to point out that the difference in damage is, indeed, significant.

Edited the other post to reflect correct math, regardless.

Add my 20% Proc off hand to that for more lost damages