Fix Quicken

[Merlocke]

not quickening my spells.....its annoying!

[bashemgud]

Yes please, think of the children.

Utterly lame bug btw. It really needs to be fixed.

[Habreno]

Welllll.....

The metamagic is working as it describes. Your spells are casting faster, and cost 10 more SP. The majority of the time, it also keeps your Concentration checks at bay.

The issue is that the spells do not *appear* quickened. However, checking the heal target, the heal will go off before the animation is done. Also, sometimes the uninterruptable aspect gets borked, though I have not had this happen to me before.

[casmoney111]

Welllll.....

The metamagic is working as it describes. Your spells are casting faster, and cost 10 more SP. The majority of the time, it also keeps your Concentration checks at bay.

The issue is that the spells do not *appear* quickened. However, checking the heal target, the heal will go off before the animation is done. Also, sometimes the uninterruptable aspect gets borked, though I have not had this happen to me before.

I casted 4 Ice Storms today in EDQ! and not 1 casted,xplain that?

[Habreno]

1) Are you sure your Ice Storm Quicken is activated? If set to "Quicken on" they will be, if set to "Quicken off" they will not be, and if set to "Default", they *might* be. If you are having problems with the spell, then perhaps using two versions, one with "Quicken on" and one with "Quicken off" would work better, rather than relying on manual metamagic toggling.

2) No amount of Concentration or Quicken can cast a spell while Overrun. Given that it's EDQ, this is a possibility.

3) Even with Quicken on, tumbling, becoming incapitated, or otherwise unable to move/act will force interruption of a spell. This is less likely than 2, but still possible.

[karnokvolrath]

The fact that quicken is borked makes basically the entire new Meta system worthless.

/signed

[Standal]

Welllll.....

The metamagic is working as it describes. Your spells are casting faster, and cost 10 more SP. The majority of the time, it also keeps your Concentration checks at bay.

The issue is that the spells do not *appear* quickened. However, checking the heal target, the heal will go off before the animation is done. Also, sometimes the uninterruptable aspect gets borked, though I have not had this happen to me before.

What does this mean? Quicken is broken even if it's working as you describe. I'm still stuck in the slow mass heal animation even if the heal goes on time. + the uninterruptible aspect is kind of the point. I know for sure that I've failed MH concentration checks, even though I've got quicken on, and the spell selected to be quicken always on.

[protokon]

1) Are you sure your Ice Storm Quicken is activated? If set to "Quicken on" they will be, if set to "Quicken off" they will not be, and if set to "Default", they *might* be. If you are having problems with the spell, then perhaps using two versions, one with "Quicken on" and one with "Quicken off" would work better, rather than relying on manual metamagic toggling.

2) No amount of Concentration or Quicken can cast a spell while Overrun. Given that it's EDQ, this is a possibility.

3) Even with Quicken on, tumbling, becoming incapitated, or otherwise unable to move/act will force interruption of a spell. This is less likely than 2, but still possible.

The metamagic is borked, there is no argueing this - it is not an animation issue.

The only thing is, it's not the only metamagic that is borked atm - they all are if you are using your spell toggles. It appears that when you use a spell with a set metamagic (lets say quicken off) then cast another spell - it is turning the global quicken off (even though the metamagic appears to still be active on the hotbar).

When I stopped using the set metamagics on my spells, I noticed my problems with quickening and other spells getting borked that way stop - which is why I think the root of the problem is with metamagic spell presets itself.

[Habreno]

What does this mean? Quicken is broken even if it's working as you describe. I'm still stuck in the slow mass heal animation even if the heal goes on time. + the uninterruptible aspect is kind of the point. I know for sure that I've failed MH concentration checks, even though I've got quicken on, and the spell selected to be quicken always on.

After the Heal goes off, you can interrupt the animation without fear of the spell not casting. It works quite well.

As far as interruptions, I have not had them personally however I know for certain this is an issue. Unsure on recreation techniques. Bug report it is the best I can do.

[xynxie]

then go through and right click the spells you don't want quickened to be always off....this fixed it for me.

[gloopygloop]

Welllll.....

The metamagic is working as it describes. Your spells are casting faster, and cost 10 more SP. The majority of the time, it also keeps your Concentration checks at bay.

The issue is that the spells do not *appear* quickened. However, checking the heal target, the heal will go off before the animation is done. Also, sometimes the uninterruptable aspect gets borked, though I have not had this happen to me before.

My biggest problem with the non-quickened animation is that I can't cast my *next* spell until the Mass Heal animation is complete. And Tumbling to break the animation doesn't work in situations where I need to stand still.

I'd say that more than 3/4 of my Mass Heals have the non-quickened animations even with Quicken - Always On flagged.

[Habreno]

Click once to swing. This will in most cases break the animation.

[erikbozelie]

turbine doesnt "fix" things, it patches them until it "apears to work".

[Zachski]

Yes, I'm sure creating 15 topics about this will make the issue resolve quicker.

In the meantime, reverse it. Put quicken on your bar, activate it the old fashioned way, and set any and all spells that you don't want quickened to "always off" while the spell you want to be quickened is simply set to "default".

It's what I did when I wanted to be able to toggle Empower for Acid Arrow without toggling it for Burning Hands or Chill Touch.

[redspecter23]

Just bumping this up again. Is there any word on when this silly little bug will be fixed? Almost wiped in an otherwise easy Shroud run today because my first mass heal in part 5 went unquickened. I didn't have time to fool around with it and get it working in the heat of battle so went with mass cures instead and sucked down 3 pots for the completion due to extra SP usage. I mentioned to the group that I got hit with a known bug and apologized, but it still made me look like a much worse player than I actually am. I think the group thought I was just making up excuses for poor play. It made both me and my guild look bad and that's the part that bothers me most about the bug.

[simo0208]

/signed

This has made solo healing raids impossible (one "failed" quicken spell and you're done). Party wiped twice in ToD because of failed heals.

Also, it doesn't matter whether or not you have quicken selected through the new right-click field or through the old way.

Often the failure has nothing to do with damage taken. I failed multiple quickened heals without even taking damage.

The animation is clearly slower than in the past.

Thanks QA, your the best!

[simo0208]

Yes, I'm sure creating 15 topics about this will make the issue resolve quicker.

In the meantime, reverse it. Put quicken on your bar, activate it the old fashioned way, and set any and all spells that you don't want quickened to "always off" while the spell you want to be quickened is simply set to "default".

It's what I did when I wanted to be able to toggle Empower for Acid Arrow without toggling it for Burning Hands or Chill Touch.

Activating it the old fashioned way is also showing failures.

[Such755]

It's been almost a bloody month, that's most likely the most terrible bug of this update, how come they didn't fix this by now? It's absolutly horrible.

[Zachski]

Hey, you were given a work-around. Don't complain that it's "old fashioned".

Use the work-around if you want to keep playing and using Quicken while you wait for this bug to be fixed. You're harming no one but yourself (and your party members) if you refuse to use the "old fashioned" way because it's "old fashioned".

[Infant]

/bump

Did we have any update on this from Turbine?

Workaround, or not, this bug is a PITA for my healer.

Infant