well with U-11 it seems that capable tank characters are in short supply, and the trend will probably continue into U-12.

I actually applaud this move by turbine, but back to the point.. I like many have been running multiple tank builds through the planner, and i have noticed something i never really cared about before... Hard to say if i care about it now...

A SDII or III build is just vastly superior to anything you can put together with DoSII or III

pally 6 for hate gen has its merits, but honestly any build you try where the pally icon shows in the party window would probably be better as a fighter.

In the end its all about feats and 7 (8H) just isnt enough... Zeal could possibly make a well built paladin tank better dps than a similar fighter tank, but at the cost of 4-8 feats over a similar fighter build.

All of us looking at building tanks are looking at multiple toughnesses, full twf or thf lines, IC, up to three shield feats, CE or PA or both.. It just doesnt fit well into a paladin frame...

I dont have a pally... Wont be making one soon unless for the PL.. Just thinking turbine might need to at least glance at what to me seems a pretty obvious imbalance?

Grim