could a sorceror beat 300 barbarians in any arena in one round?

[neverconsentual]

I think so

60% displacement
100% fort
300% movement speed from things like expeditious retreat and shadow walk
aoe instakill (shock ball with metamagic feats on) on less than 2 second cooldown
the blink air savants get at third prestige

around 500 base hp
can heal self at the pace a pally can lay on hands

he could win without having to heal himself once, and maybe without getting hit once. He could probably win without even moving from his spawn and inch

i guess its realistic but you could also do something were the twelve disables some uses of magic in arena or something if you wanted the lore to be correct and pvp balanced

[twix]

Im not even sure how to reply to this....

[dkyle]

Not if all the Barbs have Lightning Strike throwers.

Also, you really don't understand how stacking works. A sorc can get 50% displacement, and +50% movement speed.

[-Zephyr-]

All I have to say is your thoughts of movment speed buff stacking couldn't be wronger. The best a pure sorc can achieve is 150% base speed with phiarlan pendant of time.

[Angelus_dead]

In general, casters with AOE spells can defeat huge numbers of melee players in a PVP arena. But in the super-lopsided example you describe, the barbs will win in one of a few ways: either all use a thrower weapon at the same time, or Sprint Boost and come in from different directions trying to Trip.

Actually for best results, half would use each method.

[barryman5000]

The sorc could win if he got a stack of store pots. The barbs could win if they bought store cakes.

J/K. I'm just trying to get the flamers that have been around on it.

[Tinco]

Congratulations, you've found one of the many reasons why this game is as pvp-centric as it is.

[Diyon]

In general, casters with AOE spells can defeat huge numbers of melee players in a PVP arena. But in the super-lopsided example you describe, the barbs will win in one of a few ways: either all use a thrower weapon at the same time, or Sprint Boost and come in from different directions trying to Trip.

Actually for best results, half would use each method.

Use stunning blow instead of trip, the example he used seems to indicate Air Savant III which trip won't work on.


But ya other than that, the Barbs would win at the very least by sheer numbers/probability.

[Sweyn]

Not if he got harried from all that dungeon alert.

[AMDarkwolf]

"you have angered many players...."


Pvp red alert... lol

[Xionanx]

Are you talking about PnP? If so then yes, any PREPARED lwizard or sorceror could wipe the floor with any number of barbarians.

If you are talking about DDO, then a single bowbarian would make short work of your piddly HP, much less 300 of them.

[NaturalHazard]

Not if all the Barbs have Lightning Strike throwers.

Also, you really don't understand how stacking works. A sorc can get 50% displacement, and +50% movement speed.

imagine the lag? let alone fitting 300 barbarians into the brawling pits where is the sorc going to run to? over the heads of all the barbs?

[Jarah]

I wonder about the mass instant-kill.
Wail has a fortitude save. What's a raged barbarians fort save again?
The long cooldown and short range of the spell would probably make it an one-use-only spell.
Used right before the sorcerer dies ...

But in the end, the lag monster eats them all before they can get close to each other.

[Chai]

One stun, trip, or crit and its over. One dead sorc, and one barbarian, standing on top of the pile of barbarian corpses who the sorc was able to kill before the now victorious barb decided to use a tactics feat. While this is being showcased, more barbarians are dying to the still ticking dots.

With hundreds of them in the area, the orc wouldnt be able to kite away from them all.

[Forgeborn]

Not if all the barbarian's use kormor's belt on the sorcerer, from 300 shots at least one should proc an irresistable dance, putting the sorcerer dead in the water.

[lugoman]

Not if they are Spartan barbarians.

[heyytoi]

I think so

60% displacement
100% fort
300% movement speed from things like expeditious retreat and shadow walk
aoe instakill (shock ball with metamagic feats on) on less than 2 second cooldown
the blink air savants get at third prestige

around 500 base hp
can heal self at the pace a pally can lay on hands

he could win without having to heal himself once, and maybe without getting hit once. He could probably win without even moving from his spawn and inch

i guess its realistic but you could also do something were the twelve disables some uses of magic in arena or something if you wanted the lore to be correct and pvp balanced

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[Kmnh]

One barb with a power word kill scroll? Or even power word: stun?

[Grenada]

Depends, are all the barbs close together?

[protokon]

Inspiration to make this poster