Cannon fodder build The Stalwart Defender, Raid Tank
Worst Shroud PUG EVER!!!!!! Epic Fail (started 1/13/10, necro'd 3/9/10, 4/20/10, raised dead 3/ 9/11, necro'd 4/9/11, 5/28/11, fame petition necro 8/5/11, necro'd 9/30/11, KIA 10/3/11, True reincarnated famed (by cleric Cordovan) 10/4/11,
If you havin' pvp problems, i feel bad for you son
i got 99 problems but a sorc ain't one
Theophratus - Constitution - Drowmos - Buphs - Gannondork - Lucciah - Gannondorph - Gannondorc - Viigo - Xachosian
Well,I`m not speaking about PnP.About PnP,Yea,At PvPs a well prepered wizard or sorcy can rock-But thats DDO,And they <Sadly?> made melee charters a bit stronger<Not enough if you ask me> for PvPs.You cant charm-SO yet there is a chance.At the stash,yea,You can kill from distance.At the wayward?Well,I was starting the describe,But whats going on Argo,Stays on argo!
300 20th level barbarians with plain +5 bows, with normal arrows.
1 in 20 miss your AC as they roll a 1.
0 miss from displacement as they are all wearing Tharnes goggles and have true seeing.
Average Damage: 1D8+5 (9.5)
300 * 9.5 * 0.95 = 2707 damage.
They kill you 5 times over before you finish casting your spells.
if you take away tharnes goggles from them all they do 1353 damage and still triviall kill you before you finish casting your spell.
300 level 1 barbs:each wear +2 throwing hammer- thats 1d6+2<modifier>+7<str>=avrage 12 per.not counting crits.
12*300*0.95=~3400.Leve 1 barbs.Oh oh,Yea,Displacement?thats 1700.Stoneskin?1500.Sorry brow.And those are level 1!barbs.level 20 means +40 str,for 3+5<modifier,Not counting elemental>+40<str>=48*300=14940.~7500,7300.Yea,730 0 HP.Good luck with that brow.
Unless that caster got some DR trinket<VoN4>-That`ll might save him from the level 1 some,<Calced for 840 demage-Any sorcerer have this amount of HP?if yes,He might have the chance to servive....Post a myddo link>But the level 20 some wont really be effected....Maximum for the level 1`s-Go rage =P and get 50 guys to go trip that sorcy.
Can we finally close this way beyond stupid thread? A single sorc already has a difficult time beating one good barb (at least, I can beat almost all of em). Air savant is the only sorc PrE that really has an edge due to the immunity to knockdown. 300 barbs... no chance.
I've seen this kind of thing time and time again, when some caster or other thinks that they can destroy many other classes.
They always want perfect setups that favor them.
They never want the opponents to have "reasonable" gear.
They always seem to forget about massive ranged damage.