+3 Stats tome...Yes or no...

[EatSmart]

No.

I would make an exception if the current paradigm changed. ie currently: +2s = widespread availability, and assumed gear, +3s = grind in 20 completions of an easy raid (I'm looking at you, shroud), and +4s = hyper rare. If the level cap were raising and +4 tomes were to become more available, with +5s being the new hard to get tomes, then i'd be ok with seeing +3s in store as a "catch up to the minimum standard for hardcore raiding".

[Zinruko]

A +3 tome isn't just +1 to hit and damage. A set of +3 tomes over +2 tomes gives pajama tank builds +1 to hit, +1 to damage, 20 hps, +2 to AC (Much bigger than you would think - It can be the difference from taking 150 damage a swing from elite horoth only on a 20 to taking that damage on a 18-20) +1 to UMD and other skills, ect.

On a caster/divine this also results in +1 to DC, +20 hps ect and an additional +1 to hit/damage on battle casters/divines.

I've been playing this account for almost two years now, and the game for much longer but I've only ever pulled two +3 tomes and 0 +4's. That's it.

[ainmosni]

lolno

[Morlen]

Definite NO.

As others have said, +3 tomes = raid loot (raids of course being the only way to currently gain +3 tomes.)

All of the money grabbing via DDO store just strengthens my impression that DDO as a whole is following the path of the Dodo. This is unfortunate, because I love playing this game.

[Lifespawn]

yes

[Rian]

most certainly not, I have grown up a number of years playing this game. It hurts me to see it taking the path of the rich kids that think everyone likes them.

Pay to win is not a win, it hurts the player base imo.

[noinfo]

No.

I would make an exception if the current paradigm changed. ie currently: +2s = widespread availability, and assumed gear, +3s = grind in 20 completions of an easy raid (I'm looking at you, shroud), and +4s = hyper rare. If the level cap were raising and +4 tomes were to become more available, with +5s being the new hard to get tomes, then i'd be ok with seeing +3s in store as a "catch up to the minimum standard for hardcore raiding".

Devs have said that +3 will be found out of raids so this gets a YES.

as to the rest being changed it is irrelevant to the case of +3.

[darkniteyogi]

yes,

it is their birthday. Just as Crystal Cove gear is pretty strong, it happens once a year. They wont be giving away tomes forever or all the time either.

I would love it if they gave a +3 tome of choice to every player. I probably will buy one or two. But theres only so many one can buy in a 1 week period.

There are worse things that create crazy imbalances, this as mentioned in an earlier thread/comment only adds 5-15% power in a non-PVP game.

If any player buys 6 +3 tomes, it'll probably cost 6000 TP? Rich kids aside, it'll hurt just as much as the Raids do. You're trading it for real life grinding.

[Baranor]

this just in...very soon turbine for the low low price of $99.99 will power level your toon for you and include...get this...5 pieces of raid loot(and a full set of super-supreme tomes).
You heard it here first but until then hell no to +3 tomes. **** staples and their easy button, look what they started

[SteeleTrueheart]

Yes.

But they should introduce a very low chance of +5 tomes in LoB epic and future quests that are as hard. Either chest only not in reward list or very low chance in 20th list only. +3's will become so passe for the min maxers then.

[Propane]

No-

Instead of out right buying a +3 tome, I would rather see something like-

purchase a token in the DDO (or maybe with X number epic tokens) and it will grant you access to the complete loot list for turn in on your 20th completion(s) of that raid.

For the 20th, 40th, 60th, etc... runs only...

This forces you to earn your loot - but without all the grind. People may raid more knowing that they will be able to get the extact loot or tome they want-

[bcgone]

Don't sell them. It isn't that hard, nor large of a commitment to run 20 shrouds.

BC

[SteeleTrueheart]

Don't sell them. It isn't that hard, nor large of a commitment to run 20 shrouds.

BC

That is 2 months of grind for a chance of 1 +3 tome of a stat that may or may not be the one you are after. My last 20th saw 0 +3 tomes on my list. Thankfully I was after a cleanser anyway or I would have been annoyed.

[CaptGrim]

no

Unless +3 tomes are added as non bound random chest loot for high CR quests then yes.

[yk49]

hellz no.

but you know what, that doesnt mean i wont buy em. i really hate to but i still will buy em.
that is the problem. lots of people who posted no here still will buy em. think about it.

[darksol23]

No

[TiberiusofTyr]

no

[Ryiah]

Yes.

I don't care if this is or isn't raid loot (I wouldn't approve of +4s in the store though). I don't care if it does or does not greatly affect your build (though if it does that says something about your build doesn't it?). What I do care about is people think that everyone should have to do it the "hard" or "slow" path just because they did. Not everyone has the time and not everyone finds enjoyment in the game. Sure you could tell them to play something other than an MMO if they don't have the time. But I could say the exact same thing to you.

In the end, I'll probably buy a set of them (assuming they don't cost a fortune) for my main character for when the build I want it to have (bard or druid) is finished leveling and TRing. Not too long ago I probably would have been very much against this. But after the antics Turbine has been pulling, I no longer consider this game to be above the other F2P games.

[Lyranda]

lol, this thread shows up in the Dev Tracker and it immediately sees an almost 10% increase in No's.
lolz

Exactly and you even have to consider that most "casual" players (the ones that will mostly have voted yes) never roam these forums. I personnaly counted 32 people around me who will vote yes but don't even have a forum account

Forums are mostly filled with "I want it as hard as I got it" people.
Always been like that, thinking they represent the majority when they are in fact the minority by a long shot...

[SyrianSB]

No... selling raid loot is lame.