Lets boost paladins a bit

[grgurius]

Paladins, some say good against only one type of enemy, others say waste of party slot. U11 maybe changed that for DoS, but paladins are still picked last, right next to rangers and weird fat kids.
Now, i have few ideas rattling around my brain and they are driving me nuts, so i decided to let them out in the open and let the forum community decide if they are any good:

1. Fort debuff:
KotC II
On a smite crit, you lower targets fortification -5%, if the target is evil outsider , duration 30 secs, this can be stacked 3 times.
KotC III
On a smite crit, you lower targets fortification -10%, if the target is evil outsider, -5% against other evil targets duration 30 secs, this can be stacked 3 times, some targets like undead and constructs are immune to this.

HotD II
On a smite crit, you lower targets fortification -5%, if the target is undead, duration 30 secs, this can be stacked 3 times.
HotD III
On a smite crit, you lower targets fortification -10%, if the target is undead, -5% against other evil targets duration 30 secs, this can be stacked 3 times, some targets like constructs are immune to this.

DoS III
On a smite crit, you lower targets fortification -5%, some targets like constructs and undead are immune to this.

Aura:
Kotc I
+1 to hit against evil outsiders
Kotc II
+1 to hit and damage against evil outsiders
Kotc III
+2 to hit and damage against evil outsiders

HotD I
+1 to hit against undead
HotD II
+1 to hit and damage against undead
HotD III
+2 to hit and damage against undead

DoS I
+1 to all saves
DoS II
+2 to all saves
DoS III
+3 to all saves
(stacks with all other bonuses to saves)

Divine might:
-lower the cost to 1 AP per tier.

Edit:

Capstone:
-add lawful damage to the current one.
-add another capstone that increases smite regeneration to one every 60 seconds.

[Templarion]

Divine Might
Half the amount of them but double the time they last.

[gogetta101]

That's actually somewhat realistic....
Good ideas..
Also while you're at it can we get a graphic
For exalted smite..? Please..
It can be similar to smite just a bit more graphically enhanced
Than the regular smite...

[grgurius]

That's actually somewhat realistic....
Good ideas..
Also while you're at it can we get a graphic
For exalted smite..? Please..
It can be similar to smite just a bit more graphically enhanced
Than the regular smite...

If they do that, i hope they don't make it like the smite animation.
Just use that white light part of the smite animation, no need for fancy spins, they break the attack chain.

[Phemt81]

Yes please, time to boost melees...

[maha0201]

Paladins, some say good against only one type of enemy, others say waste of party slot. U11 maybe changed that for DoS, but paladins are still picked last, right next to rangers and weird fat kids.
Now, i have few ideas rattling around my brain and they are driving me nuts, so i decided to let them out in the open and let the forum community decide if they are any good:

1. Fort debuff:
KotC II
On a smite crit, you lower targets fortification -5%, if the target is evil outsider , duration 30 secs, this can be stacked 3 times.
KotC III
On a smite crit, you lower targets fortification -10%, if the target is evil outsider, -5% against other evil targets duration 30 secs, this can be stacked 3 times, some targets like undead and constructs are immune to this.

HotD II
On a smite crit, you lower targets fortification -5%, if the target is undead, duration 30 secs, this can be stacked 3 times.
HotD III
On a smite crit, you lower targets fortification -10%, if the target is undead, -5% against other evil targets duration 30 secs, this can be stacked 3 times, some targets like constructs are immune to this.

DoS III
On a smite crit, you lower targets fortification -5%, some targets like constructs and undead are immune to this.

Aura:
Kotc I
+1 to hit against evil outsiders
Kotc II
+1 to hit and damage against evil outsiders
Kotc III
+2 to hit and damage against evil outsiders

HotD I
+1 to hit against undead
HotD II
+1 to hit and damage against undead
HotD III
+2 to hit and damage against undead

DoS I
+1 to all saves
DoS II
+2 to all saves
DoS III
+3 to all saves
(stacks with all other bonuses to saves)
Divine might:
-lower the cost to 1 AP per tier.

You there log in the game first then start to type ! So this means i can hope to hear you're nice out shouts in game soon or ?

As for palies picked last i remember all that pugs with 28 pt dwarf pally or elf whom just couldn't bare all that weight ( ofc they all went 2wf too ) a good 2wf pally needs 34 + tomes or 36 points. And ofc most new players don't fancy 2hf

First before patch pallys were broken, yes smites didn't proc as they should and dmg wasn't proced as it should I'll run shroud this evening to see if they fixed that on mine pally, and i hope that they did.

Changes could be nice, but i disagree on ap coast, leave dm up to its coast since it is nice to have it. Reduce cost of requested enhancements for PrE since half of them are useless pass levels 14 or so ( turn undead for hotd, extra sps and saves vs fear -.-" for kotc, well aura does helps dos ...)

Think that after update ( artificers ) pure paladins will become extincted spacey since they will gain more from 2 monk than from capstone. Capstone should give something juicy now so most players would want to go pure.

[grgurius]

You there log in the game first then start to type ! So this means i can hope to hear you're nice out shouts in game soon or ?

If i'm posting that means i'm working, i mean i'm at work, and yes i'll be in game soon(tm).

Think that after update ( artificers ) pure paladins will become extincted spacey since they will gain more from 2 monk than from capstone. Capstone should give something juicy now so most players would want to go pure.

True, capstone should be improved, hm i'll add some capstone ideas to the OP too.

[Ninety0ne]

Change dm to be +x/+x rather than +0/+x and it would go along way to assisting paladins.