Epic Big Top: No First Timers

[DeafeningWhisper]

It seems that most people missed that it's pretty likely that the OP was talking about an LFM put up by someone who didn't speak English very well, and thus didn't want to have to be responsible for teaching an English speaker how to run the quest.

So I thought here near the top of a new page might help spread the word. :P

I think the discussion is on all the LFMs that are created that way now, not just the OP. I know for a fact that at least some of the "Know it" Shroud lfms and "no noobs" the Pit are run by people who speak English.

[Grace_ana]

Actually, The Pit is the only quest I think I could understand a "no new people" request (apart from the English-second-language reason, which I can understand). The Pit can be run fast by a group that knows it, but a single new person is going to end up making it take an hour OR piking and possibly fuming. I wish more experienced people would do teaching runs, but that's definitely a more significant time sink. In pretty much anything else though, one or two new people aren't going to really make any difference in a quest/raid, as long as they pay attention and listen to directions.

[Rydin_Dirtay]

If you had read what I wrote, you would have noticed that I described 5 people, the ones who will join your eBigTop.

Huh? Not my ebigTop. I'd tell those guys to go run 20 Shrouds/Vod/HOX/ToD and then come back. FYI I did read what you wrote, which was the following:

Then you get the 260hp Ranger with a crappy bow and no fortification, the 210hp Rogue with no Disable/Search item and no fortification, the 170hp Sorcerer with 24 Cha and no fortification and the 240hp Cleric with no SP item and no fortification.

Do you REALLY think those would be the 5 that join your pugged out eBig Top? Really? I mean I have bad luck in game man but that would be a scream seeing those 5 not even Shroud-ready toons join an eBig Top.

I certainly hope Khyber has not sunk so low as to see those types join an eBig Top pug. When I have run it, it is with people I know, and at most we have had to put an LFM up for 1 or 2 slots at most....but even then, we did not get 170 hp Sorcs with 24 CHA, heh.