TRing, Just what is the Point?

[Davanyn]

so you get a past life feat for free, but the rest cost you.

you get a couple more Ability Points.

you have to grind more to level, i understand why, ok.

and you get storage for all the sruff you accumulated during your last life on your person at the time of TR..

Supposedly you lose all your back and bag space that you earned and favor as well.

ok so really, is this worth it? what am i missing that makes this such a great thing?

[LoveNeverFails]

the feather in your cap.

some people enjoy it as a way of furthering their game, some don't... it is a personal choice/playstyle.

[Galeria]

I don't enjoy end game content much, and I certainly wouldn't want to do the same dozen quests over and over every day. Bleh.

I love TRing with more powerful stats and gear because I enjoy the game. Some people rush to the finish line, some people enjoy the journey.

[Templarion]

I don't enjoy end game content much, and I certainly wouldn't want to do the same dozen quests over and over every day. Bleh.

I love TRing with more powerful stats and gear because I enjoy the game. Some people rush to the finish line, some people enjoy the journey.

Yeah. It's all about the journey.

[redraider]

Some people rush to the finish line, some people enjoy the journey.

This says it all.

TR'ing is not for everyone.

Epic end game grinding in not for everyone.

[Plutocracy]

I don't enjoy end game content much, and I certainly wouldn't want to do the same dozen quests over and over every day. Bleh.

I love TRing with more powerful stats and gear because I enjoy the game. Some people rush to the finish line, some people enjoy the journey.

This. I always find it funny that people think of TRing as a grind, when it is the exact opposite, it gives you access to the most content by far. The idea of "endgame" perplexes me. Just bigger numbers is all. If you want variety and content, TR.

Grind=playing same quest over and over again. I refuse to do that.

[Spoonwelder]

The options are TR, Epics, roll a new character. Each choice is personal....I don't like epic - same quests just harder and the gear grind is IMO painful. I also play fairly frequently for small periods of time so sitting and waiting to fill an epic group OR taking forever to finish one doesn't appeal. Others like it (i don't think anyone loves it).

I do roll new characters, but I also like the ones I have - so TR was my choice vs a a total reroll. That said, I probably won't TR a second time - would take me a year to get back to L20 at my speed.

[Davanyn]

oh boy and a feather and wings around your name. (cool looking)

i have heard a rumor anbout higher starting HP adn SP but i cant find anything to confirm this.

what benefits? the wiki doesnt really state much in that corner and i just cant find the info on the forums.


so some people want to make it even harder to get to Lv 20, and that is fun? it took me over a year to get to 20...

[LoveNeverFails]

i have heard a rumor anbout higher starting HP adn SP but i cant find anything to confirm this..

False. Any correlation can probably be attributed to more stat points to use at the beginning, which can = more HP and SP if you put them in the proper stats.

[TheDearLeader]

i have heard a rumor anbout higher starting HP adn SP but i cant find anything to confirm this.

False. Any correlation can probably be attributed to more stat points to use at the beginning, which can = more HP and SP if you put them in the proper stats.

Actually, partially false, partially true.

It depends on the Passive Past Life Feat involved, that is to say the previous lives of the character. For example, a character with a Past Life: Barbarian would have 10 more starting HP, and a personal with Sorc/FvS would have 20 more starting SP. These benefits stack each time you TR from that class, so in theory a 10th life Wizard who did Barbarian x3, Sorc x3, FvS x3 would be a 36-point build with 30 more HP and 120 more SP starting out than a freshly-rolled toon.

I have always wondered this as well. I have had a level 20 fighter for some months now and I just had my monk level up to 20 as well. I really dont know where to go now. The benefits do not mean much to me sadly. I wish there was something to want to make me start another life with them as I enjoyed my Monk. Just nothing for me but everyone has different styles so Im glad others find fun in this. Thats something at least

Monk back into Monk is one of the most beneficial TRs you can do for yourself.

[SisAmethyst]

False. Any correlation can probably be attributed to more stat points to use at the beginning, which can = more HP and SP if you put them in the proper stats.

hehe, what if I say wrong?

Past Life: Barbarian : You were a Barbarian in a past life. You occasionally find yourself filled with a nearly irresistable urge to smash boxes. With your head. Each time you acquire this feat you gain 10 additional hit points. This feat can be stacked up to three times.

Past Life: Favored Soul : You were a Favored Soul in a past life. You occasionally find yourself wishing to leap off of tall things. Each time you acquire this feat you gain +1 to spell penetration checks and gain 20 additional spell points. (These spell points are only available if you are able to cast spells.) This feat can be stacked up to three times.

Past Life: Sorcerer : You were a Sorcerer in a past life. You occasionally find yourself daydreaming of dragons. Each time you acquire this feat you gain +1 to the DC's of your Evocation spells and gain 20 additional spell points. (These spell points are only available if you are able to cast spells.) This feat can be stacked up to three times.

.. argh, I got hijacked

[TheDearLeader]

hehe, what if I say wrong?

Then you'd be right, but 7 posts behind me already having said so.

[SisAmethyst]

Then you'd be right, but 7 posts behind me already having said so.

hehe yes, noticed that afterwards, was 3 minutes to late ... seems I am sometimes a bit slow on posting answers

To the OP: It has been already said, but the only other choice you have is either to reroll a completely new character or run epic till the end of the day. The first one has the disadvantage that you can't take you BTC loot that you earned in your journey with you, TR does let you.

[Ap0k]

oh boy and a feather and wings around your name. (cool looking)

i have heard a rumor anbout higher starting HP adn SP but i cant find anything to confirm this.

what benefits? the wiki doesnt really state much in that corner and i just cant find the info on the forums.


so some people want to make it even harder to get to Lv 20, and that is fun? it took me over a year to get to 20...

That can be atributed to the passive pastlife feats. Barbarian nets you 10 more HP per pastlife feat. Sorc and FvS get you 20 more sp (I think, havent TR'd a sorc or FvS)

[Indoran]

oh boy and a feather and wings around your name. (cool looking)

i have heard a rumor anbout higher starting HP adn SP but i cant find anything to confirm this.

what benefits? the wiki doesnt really state much in that corner and i just cant find the info on the forums.


so some people want to make it even harder to get to Lv 20, and that is fun? it took me over a year to get to 20...

Past life feats have 2 flavours. You get 1 for free and you can take the other at level 3 onward.

Mostly my incentive to tr is because Past life feats (pl) can be very good... and it can explain why they told you that toons can start with more hp/sp.

Barb past life feat gives a few hp

Sorc and FvS pl feat gives a bit of sp (ridiculously low amount but they also give other benefits)

Paladin pl is amazing for WF toons. Monk pl is great for all melee. Barb pl recently got adjusted so no longer overpowered (sad panda) Fighter pl is good specially when imp. sunder just became THAT good. Ranger can be good for arti.

And so on... be sure to check ddowiki regarding this topic, as my post never intended to be a comprehensive guide on this topic. but be sure... pl feats improve your toon in a very noticeable way (without the need to go for completionist).

[gloopygloop]

i have heard a rumor anbout higher starting HP adn SP but i cant find anything to confirm this.

A TR'd character will generally have higher HP at any particular level below than a character that isn't TR'd because a TR'd character will tend to have significantly better gear than a character who hasn't had an opportunity to gather Bound to Character gear - this has particualr significace from level 11 onward because a TR'd character will usually have a greensteel +45 HP item and may also have a +150 SP item as well as various other "twink" items. If they've spent enough time in the raid Against The Demon Queen/Zawabi's Revenge, then they'll effectively have infinite spell points while leveling once the hit the minimum level to wear the Torc of Prince Raiyum-de that will slowly recharge their SP as they are hit in combat.

A character that has a "big brother" farming Bound to Account items or just plain spending big money on the Auction House for him will have similar advantages over a character that is acquiring all of his own gear with only funds acquired by that character.

Aside from some very minor benefits from passive past lives or a moderate advantage in HP from the active Barbarian past life, any increased HP or SP on a TR'd character will be from gear.

[Uska]

oh boy and a feather and wings around your name. (cool looking)

i have heard a rumor anbout higher starting HP adn SP but i cant find anything to confirm this.

what benefits? the wiki doesnt really state much in that corner and i just cant find the info on the forums.


so some people want to make it even harder to get to Lv 20, and that is fun? it took me over a year to get to 20...

Well if you tr after being a barb you start with more hp and if you tr as a sorc and Ithink a fvs you start with my sp if your new life has sp

[SirValentine]

ok so really, is this worth it? what am i missing that makes this such a great thing?

It's not the destination, it's the journey.

[Jakarr]

It's not the destination, it's the journey.

This, Dungeons and Dragons imo has always been about the journey and not so much the destination.

[Gkar]

This, Dungeons and Dragons imo has always been about the journey and not so much the destination.

Agreed. I get bored with my L20s. Oh sure I raid with the guild, but that's mostly to raid with the guild. Once my characters hit 20 I used to go roll something new, now I get a new life on an existing character, and I can have some fun raid gear along the way to help with levelling.