can i use fred to get mythrill body? help!

[johnrg]

i want to make an artificer but i do not want to deal with the extra spell failure so i was thinking that i would just get a diffrent feat at creation and then go to fred at lvl6 and change a feat to it so i can have prestige to make it so i have no spell failure but is it posible or done the reduction even work on the mithrill body?

[Angelus_dead]

i want to make an artificer but i do not want to deal with the extra spell failure so i was thinking that i would just get a diffrent feat at creation and then go to fred at lvl6 and change a feat to it so i can have prestige to make it so i have no spell failure but is it posible or done the reduction even work on the mithrill body?

Supposedly you can switch a feat to Mithril Body later. I've seen them in the lists, but of course I've never done it.

Mithril Body is quite a bad feat, which really nobody should ever take. Either get Adamantine or nothing... and usually pick nothing. Important: Don't make the mistake of thinking Artificers face Arcane Spell Failure on their spells. The only way ASF could matter to an Artificer is if they're casting Sorcerer scrolls for some reason.

All Artificer spells can be cast perfectly well in Adamantine Body or Fullplate.

[johnrg]

so i wont have to do anything extra at all i can just get Adamantine and not have to have a SF problem at all no matter what.
Well that changes my whole build. Thanks
but quick question if the SF dosnt matter why dose the prestige reduce it

[Angelus_dead]

but quick question if the SF dosnt matter why dose the prestige reduce it

That is a very good question: Why did the devs put -10% ASF on the prestige specialty for a non-ASF class?

Two possible answers:
1. They saw that Artificers are "arcane" but forgot they don't use ASF.
2. They thought Artificers would want to use Sorcerer scrolls for some reason, and then also thought it made sense for weapon-focused Artificers to be better at it.

I suppose that at least for people who enjoy Fire Shield scrolls there's some benefit to it... but in general, Artificers can ignore ASF almost completely.

[-Zephyr-]

That is a very good question: Why did the devs put -10% ASF on the prestige specialty for a non-ASF class?

Two possible answers:
1. They saw that Artificers are "arcane" but forgot they don't use ASF.
2. They thought Artificers would want to use Sorcerer scrolls for some reason, and then also thought it made sense for weapon-focused Artificers to be better at it.

I suppose that at least for people who enjoy Fire Shield scrolls there's some benefit to it... but in general, Artificers can ignore ASF almost completely.

When Artificers were first released on Lamannia, their capstone affected scrolls as well, making them really potent casters with scrolls. They could UMD every arcane scroll just fine and get something cool out of it, almost like a weak arcane. Arcane failure applies to those, it made sense to have some ways to remove ASF for them...
But that was considered too powerful, and the ability to scroll everything was removed, scrolls are now just useful sometimes. So yeah, you could not care of ASF, even if I would myself.

Be careful tho, when scrolling a spell that you actually have on your arti spell list, you may be subject to ASF anyway, as the version of the spell contained by scrolls is the wiz/sorc version, as is subject to ASF.