Feedback on the new UI bars - healing is more difficult now

[adam1oftheround]

Make health bars as big as they were please. Put the character name inside the health bar and make both character name and health bar taller please. I cannot currently read either at a glance, very poor change.

[der_kluge]

Let's see:

Jack up the red bars so we can't see them anymore. Check.
Triple and quadruple the amount of hit points raid bosses have. Check.
Increase the cost of FvS wings and limit the amount they can use it. Check.

Why yes - it does appear that Turbine hates healers.

[rest]

I absolutely despise the new party UI. In addition to it being harder as a healer type to distinguish when someone might need a heal, I find it quite difficult to see who is speaking now since only the tiny name above their bar lights up green when they speak. Beyond frustrating.

[Flavilandile]

/signing

Like the numerous other threads on the subject.

-Blinks.- Clicking? What do you mean clicking? Function Keys FTW!!! Don't you use the function keys? They're much easier to use than clicking on people, and a helluva lot faster. -Shrugs.- I'm sort of a keyboard player. I don't even own a mouse. I use the scratch pad on my laptop.

clicking on the bar is actually faster than using the F-keys. At least for me.

Clicking means I have to put the cursor on the right person... the cursor is already in that part of my screens, so it doesn't take long. then cursor move to the right icon in the bar to hit the spell and go back to the party area.
Fast efficient.

Using F Key means I lift my hand from the mouse, look for the correct F-Key with my eyes ( thus loosing focus of the screen ), select the right F-Key, press it, put back the hand on the mouse, look back to the screen. By that time the person I was trying to heal is dead, so I can hit Resurrection instead of heal.

[Velvet.Gloves]

/signing

Like the numerous other threads on the subject.




clicking on the bar is actually faster than using the F-keys. At least for me.

Clicking means I have to put the cursor on the right person... the cursor is already in that part of my screens, so it doesn't take long. then cursor move to the right icon in the bar to hit the spell and go back to the party area.
Fast efficient.

Using F Key means I lift my hand from the mouse, look for the correct F-Key with my eyes ( thus loosing focus of the screen ), select the right F-Key, press it, put back the hand on the mouse, look back to the screen. By that time the person I was trying to heal is dead, so I can hit Resurrection instead of heal.

-Grins.- I guess I had to adapt quick to using a laptop then. ^_^ Glad that that method works for you though. ^_^

[Ugumagre]

/dont understand

1) I think they are big enough
2) I never click on the bars. I asign at the begining : John, you are F2, Bill, you are F3, Maria (actually Mario, but ...) you are F4...so I hear "F4" I heal Mario.
I try to use the mouse click as less as possible.

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The new party UI is awful. I really wish I had more adjectives to describe how repugnant I find it, but I'm too tired from posting in every UI thread to muster up the imagination anymore.

[Cauthey]

Possible work around (can't check myself right now) create a new chat tab and break it off from all the others. Turn off all incoming and out going info for that widow. Place party health icons on top of the new chat window should give you a black background to work with.

Excellent idea for a workaround. +1, if I've got any left.

The primary issue is that I cannot see how much red is in the tiny little bar when the translucense of it is showing me tumbleweed fauna out in the Demon Sands.

[somenewnoob]

/signed

If they don't change it my cleric is on permanent strike and will NEVER heal an artificer pet or an artificer! lol

[PNellesen]

Possible work around (can't check myself right now) create a new chat tab and break it off from all the others. Turn off all incoming and out going info for that widow. Place party health icons on top of the new chat window should give you a black background to work with.

I tried this, and it definitely helps, but if you're the type who clicks on party name instead of using function keys (such as me), you have to be really careful that you don't mistakenly click in between the party names to select them, because then the chat window comes to the front and you can't click on ANYONE until you can get it behind the party names again.

[Firesmall_at]

Possible work around (can't check myself right now) create a new chat tab and break it off from all the others. Turn off all incoming and out going info for that widow. Place party health icons on top of the new chat window should give you a black background to work with.

thx. seems to help.

[Firesmall_at]

names to select them, because then the chat window comes to the front and you can't click on ANYONE until you can get it behind the party names again.

I let the left part of the party list hang slightly outside the chat window left edge so that u can click on party list if the chat comes on top of the party list.

[TBot1234]

/signed

[Webfoot337]

/signed

[Ganak]

I had a difficult time on my healer with the new bars and seeing when people needed a heal. Sry I'm not more specific and I can't put my finger on it but it did not have the same awareness of when people were dropping in health.

[onndahri]

i really dont need a little picture of my face on my hp bar either i know what i look like and it just takes up more of my valuable screen space,
i think there should be a check box in ui options for classic view i am curious to the advantages of this change, or why they did it? ive heard a rumor or two about the devs actually playing the game i guess i just dont see it

[BOgre]

/signed

another issue im having is that if im on my barb and another barb joins and is now the top health bar i sometimes look up and assume its me, as im use to always being the the top hp bar this can either cause me to die w/o noticing or heal when not necessary im sure i will get use to that but i think the ui panel should have a classic view option.

this. our party cleric died a couple times today. was saying that her self heal wasn't working. She eventually clued in that she wasn't on top of the list, and that fixed it, sorta. She still messed up a couple times, and she still complained about visibility. As the ranger I commonly cast element resists and FoM, as well as emergency heals on the cleric or myself if needed...

hate the new ui.
/signed.

[Lethaliss]

Did one shroud came away with eye strain and a headache for an hour. My cleric is on strike until this is fixed and I will go to another game if this is not reverted soon. On top of that the new harder boss monsters penalize the divines the most too, bad move, new game releases are coming for the holidays so ready to move on...really a bummer and if not fixed I've wasted my time in this game. So Turbine not just DDO will have lost all my confidence now and in the future.

[twodamagebyfire]

My main is a cleric. I had a whole bunch of "surprise" deaths on Thelanis today in the new areas because the shorter bar are harder to see, and *appear* to go down faster which shortens the time you have to react.

Yeah, I like the number totals, because it lets me decide who needs which size spell for maximum effect.

But I'd like an option to return to the longer bars - they are easier for healers to deal with and give us enough time to see who needs what when.

This UI change makes it harder to do my job.

[Cybernetic]

/Double Signed

Bars should be longer and closer to each other and also, they need a dark, transparent background (like the chat window)
It's a PIA to heal people at the moment.

Or better yet...

How about a GUI option to select CLASSIC vital bars? They were good enough for five years after all.