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    We did an elite VOD last night. I don't think anyone bothered to get SS, times, deaths or pots. Healer pots: me 3 cos I was being tired and stupid, Evokerkill 0 and still had a quarter bar left. I used about 100 heal scrolls - at least 50 of those I didn't need to. Not sure how many pots the arcanes used - we had 3. Half the party was total pug but ok.

    It does take longer - but in some ways that makes it easier as the trash and orthons aren't spawning at the same time at.

    Not worth claiming a server first post U11 imho. Looking forward to someone do a speed run or something of it.
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    hard TOD no ss approx 36mins. I used 1 pot spamming mass cures in part 2 when the shadows went nuts (the pug pally in stance with a claw set we later realised. Mil realised and Fel gave him a little chat, nicely, in part 3). Other healer would not say how many pots used (delay in part 3 caused again by clueless well geared pally). There would have been no deaths in party 1 if the nearly dcing barb had not been standing in lava on the other side of the room AFTER we finished part 1. . Lots of fun since there was a near wipe in part 2. Did not feel that much harder and considering the group (and the clueless pally) pretty straight forward. (Although we did have Ayspam - and I must say that his tanking gear healing amp is insane).

    Again I don't think it's worth recording although it was plenty of fun. Why don't you simplify the OP Sirgog?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    we like ss's. makes things more colorful.
    also nice to see details like death count/pot count if u played ur clr and used any to get a feel for the updates.

    Tho keep in mind a 6 round elite shroud is kinda whats intended.. Thats actually a nice quick one for what it was when we ran it frequently when it was fresh (16 cap). Didnt feel boring back then imo. But these days yea..

    I think ur bored cuz u did shroud 100000 times, not because the fights 1minute longer. Everything gets boring after enough repitittion.

    Raids are funner now imo.. Was kinda intense at the end of the DQ2 when she went I am war and a couple players went down.
    Meh, looking at the screenies they really aren't that interesting, you don't want to look at my horrible display.

    Elite Shroud, 73 mins, 8 non plotline related deaths (two mine, bad Tere on her squishy ranger ). I would guess at about 8 pots in total. I'd not run Elite Shroud before apart from the all FvS one the other day, so I don't have anything to compare it with, but 73 mins for that snoozefest just seemed, well, tedious to me. Something to do once for epeen reasons and then ignore as far as I'm concerned.

    The Master Artificer was 70 minutes, 24 deaths and a lot of pots - one wiz drank 19, I don't know what the others did. I sent 10 pots to Hordo to spread around. And it was about as enjoyable as eating my own liver, so it's not about new content. It just came over as a boring beat down to me, although my ranged kit was less than stellar since I just hopped in because they needed a trapsmith without doing any special prep.

    Both came across as an endurance race more than anything. I will probably run the Master Artificer once more to get another stat stick, craft my Devotion IX items, and ignore it after that. Certainly not feeling massively motivated to grind out the khopeshes etc. It just doesn't feel fun to me.
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    As the old raids weren't made hard enough to not be widely PUGged, all things related to them have been removed. Still will record impressive runs, such as 4-person epic VON6 completions or anything like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirgog View Post
    As the old raids weren't made hard enough to not be widely PUGged, all things related to them have been removed. Still will record impressive runs, such as 4-person epic VON6 completions or anything like that.
    ok.

    But not buying the "LoB/MA" widely pugged on release day.. There we're maybe 2 completions of MA that day only, and they were very late, nearly 24 hrs after launch. The only LoB I heard of happening day one was revenants.

    And none were pugs, Except my group. They are hard enough that pugs couldn't figure them out that fast without some experience.

    Even today there are no real pugs completing these raids often. There are guild groups that pug 1-4 spots. It's different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    ok.

    But not buying the "LoB/MA" widely pugged on release day.. There we're maybe 2 completions of MA that day only, and they were very late, nearly 24 hrs after launch. The only LoB I heard of happening day one was revenants.

    And none were pugs, Except my group. They are hard enough that pugs couldn't figure them out that fast without some experience.

    Even today there are no real pugs completing these raids often. There are guild groups that pug 1-4 spots. It's different.
    We actually beat both LOB normal and MA hard on release day with pugs.. Only had 3 guildies on each run. For the first 3 days all runs were pugged heavily. Today was the first day that I had over 6 guildies in a run. Yesterday with the chance to get premium players raids were less 'pugged' for sure as the players were more known quantities. My guildy and a friend in a power gaming guild have done more raids then I do and in fact have done probably about 15 lobs and 15 MA already many of which are pugs or not all guild or whatever you want to call it.
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    BtW did anyone checked what is "safe" AC for Master Artificer final bosses?

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