Artificer/Monk? >.>

[Doomwafflez]

OKAY!!! >:0

I wanted to make an articer/monk but i wanted to know a couple things..maybe people know the answers <.<

1: If i get whirling steel, would i still be considered "Centered" If i have one longsword and then a runearm?

2: Would Kamas or longswords be better?

3: Which levels? I was thinking maybe 17 Art/3 Monk for harmonious balance and other stuffs, evasion, ect <_<

4:Should i tank or should my pet tank.

[t0r012]

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OKAY!!! >:0

I wanted to make an articer/monk but i wanted to know a couple things..maybe people know the answers <.<

1: If i get whirling steel, would i still be considered "Centered" If i have one longsword and then a runearm? whirling steel or no , rune arms uncenter you

2: Would Kamas or longswords be better? fists are better but between the two LS are superior except needing to eat two and maybe a 3rd feat to get which makes them no worth it.

3: Which levels? I was thinking maybe 17 Art/3 Monk for harmonious balance and other stuffs, evasion, ect <_<

4:Should i tank or should my pet tank.

[ryingar]

Might want to think of a 16art/3mnk/1ftr and go twf long sword. That way you'll still have the option of using your ki, as well as a rune arm (uncentered), just not at the same time.

[Letrii]

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Which feats required to use longsword?

[Doomwafflez]

Might want to think of a 16art/3mnk/1ftr and go twf long sword. That way you'll still have the option of using your ki, as well as a rune arm (uncentered), just not at the same time.

So im guessing your considered "Uncentered" if your using a rune arm?

If so that kinda sucks...I was having a badass image of charging up a runearm while slashing the **** out of mobs with the longsword. lmao would be good burst dmg imo

[ryingar]

So im guessing your considered "Uncentered" if your using a rune arm?

If so that kinda sucks...I was having a badass image of charging up a runearm while slashing the **** out of mobs with the longsword. lmao would be good burst dmg imo

I believe that is the way it is currently working...I feel your pain. I would love to see it centered while using ki weaps, but sadly it is not so.

[t0r012]

Which feats required to use longsword?

1 Weapon Focus slash as a prereq for WSS
2 WSS to stay centered as a monk
Possible 3. Longsword itself if arti don't get martial weapons or if you are a pure monk or a class without martial weapon prof.

[Tenkari_Rozahas]

Possible 3. Longsword itself if arti don't get martial weapons or if you are a pure monk or a class without martial weapon prof.

arti's dont get any martial weapon proficiencies, or else dorf artis would get dwarf axes as a bonus weapon (arti dorfs suffer the -4 from D.Axes.)

[t0r012]

arti's dont get any martial weapon proficiencies, or else dorf artis would get dwarf axes as a bonus weapon (arti dorfs suffer the -4 from D.Axes.)

Yeah I kinda figured as they aren't a "martial" class but I wasn't sure as I haven't done lama land this time around ( no interest in arti).

So it would require a total of 3 feats to be longsword centered with a monk arti , LS prof, wf : slash , and WSS. An that would be till you strapped on a rune arm and you loose center.
I don't care how you slice it , WSS isn't worth it for the feat investment unless you are doing a solar amp build and get LS with pally. Longswords just aren't good enough to justify that kind of investment.

[Doomwafflez]

Okeh..so an arty/monk would suck? What about an arty/fighter? im sorta bent on making a melee arty <.<

I <3 Melee
xD

[Zion_Halcyon]

Okeh..so an arty/monk would suck? What about an arty/fighter? im sorta bent on making a melee arty <.<

I <3 Melee
xD

Although not fully fleshed out yet, one of the devs mentioned that he wants to do something with Arty's and bastard swords and Dwarven War Axes down the line, so while you'll get minimal benefit now, if you are trying to future proof, that might be the direction you want to go in.

[honkuimushi]

Okeh..so an arty/monk would suck? What about an arty/fighter? im sorta bent on making a melee arty <.<

I <3 Melee
xD

I wouldn't say it would suck, there just isn't much synergy with Monk combat styles. One of the problems with Artificers is that they get trap skills, but no Evasion. Since Turbine has gone through several periods where they made traps more diffucult by puttong the boxes on the other side or inside of the traps, that can be a significant problem.

Rogue would work, but a Rogue splash has a lot of overlap. Monk 2 would get you Evasion, 2 feats and an Animal path-- though you lose the Artificer bonus feat at 20. When you combine Evasion with Insightful Reflexes or a high Dex, you should be in good shape.

So for a Caster or Ranged artificer, 18/2 is probably the best split. A melee build would have a few more choices. 20 Art would be pretty good as would 18 Art/ 2 Monk or 16 Art/ 2 Monk/ 2 Fighter. But my favorite would be 16 Art/ 2 Monk/ 2 Paladin. Dump Dex and take Insightful reflexes and put a few points into Chr for Divine Grace. Go WF for immunities and healing. For weapons you could go with a Bastard Sword and the THF line, a regular Martial weapon and a rune arm or ditch the rune arm and go with a 2 handed weapon.

Artificer is a new class and it's a bit different from anything we've had untill now. I would also say that it hasn't had all the kinks worked out and I would expect some significant changes over the next few months. So feel free to try things out.