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    Guardiest guarder of guard-dom Yokido's Avatar
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    Default Improved Shield Mastery-Enhancements

    We all know that one feat for 5% PD absorption is quite useless, many people have suggested changing it or removing it altogether, while I have come up with a different, more convenient idea for Turbine and their balance skepticism.

    2 AP-Requires Improved Shield Mastery; You have grown to using shields, and gain 5% additional physical damage reduction, added to your Improved Shield Mastery feat. Must be proficient with your shield to take effect.

    4 AP-Requires Improved Shield Mastery; You have grown to using shields, and gain 5% more physical damage reduction, with a total of 10% added to your Improved Shield Mastery feat.

    6 AP-Requires Improved Shield Mastery; You have grown to using shields, and gain 5% more physical damage reduction, with a total of 15% added to your Improved Shield Mastery feat.

    Keep in mind that 5% is only 1/20 reduction, so for it to be more effective than 1 dr you have to receive over 39 damage.. Also keep noted that you are required to get two feats for a total of 40% damage reduction with a tower shield as your maximum.

    2 AP-Requires Improved Shield Mastery, Improved Shield Bash; You valiantly wield a shield with grand expertise alongside your main-hand weapon, and gain a 5% additional chance to shield bash when attacking while not being mobile for a total of 25%. Must be proficient with your shield to take effect.

    4 AP-Requires Improved Shield Mastery, Improved Shield Bash; You valiantly wield a shield with masterful expertise alongside your main-hand weapon, and gain a 5% additional chance to shield bash when attacking while not being mobile for a total of 30%.

    6 AP-Requires Improved Shield Mastery, Improved Shield Bash; You valiantly wield a shield with perfect expertise alongside your main-hand weapon, and gain a 5% additional chance to shield bash when attacking while not being mobile for a total of 35%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yokido View Post
    We all know that one feat for 5% PD absorption is quite useless, many people have suggested changing it or removing it altogether, while I have come up with a different, more convenient idea for Turbine and their balance skepticism.

    2 AP-Requires Improved Shield Mastery; You have grown to using shields, and gain 5% additional physical damage reduction, added to your Improved Shield Mastery feat. Must be proficient with your shield to take effect.

    4 AP-Requires Improved Shield Mastery; You have grown to using shields, and gain 5% more physical damage reduction, with a total of 10% added to your Improved Shield Mastery feat.

    6 AP-Requires Improved Shield Mastery; You have grown to using shields, and gain 5% more physical damage reduction, with a total of 15% added to your Improved Shield Mastery feat.

    Keep in mind that 5% is only 1/20 reduction, so for it to be more effective than 1 dr you have to receive over 39 damage.. Also keep noted that you are required to get two feats for a total of 40% damage reduction with a tower shield as your maximum.

    2 AP-Requires Improved Shield Mastery, Improved Shield Bash; You valiantly wield a shield with grand expertise alongside your main-hand weapon, and gain a 5% additional chance to shield bash when attacking while not being mobile for a total of 25%. Must be proficient with your shield to take effect.

    4 AP-Requires Improved Shield Mastery, Improved Shield Bash; You valiantly wield a shield with masterful expertise alongside your main-hand weapon, and gain a 5% additional chance to shield bash when attacking while not being mobile for a total of 30%.

    6 AP-Requires Improved Shield Mastery, Improved Shield Bash; You valiantly wield a shield with perfect expertise alongside your main-hand weapon, and gain a 5% additional chance to shield bash when attacking while not being mobile for a total of 35%.

    Tell me what you think, sign or no sign?
    /signed... with one caveat.

    Improved Shield Bash appears to be Total ****.

    So I'm not sure how much the enhancements would help with that
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    I agree that 5% reduction from improved shield mastery seems hardly worth spending the feat and the extra DPS from improved shield bash is only marginally helpful (I'm currently using it, but am on the fence over whether to keep it). However this suggestion heavily favors Fighter Defenders over Paladins because Paladin DoS builds don't have the spare feat available for improved shield mastery nor the APs available for the enhancement line. Also 5% damage reduction per tier seems fairly overpowered, so.

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    I'm all for adding an enhancement line that improves S&B use, however this would need to come with a reworking of AP requirements for Pally DoS builds so that there would be enough APs available to purchase the new line.
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    Guardiest guarder of guard-dom Yokido's Avatar
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    @Ralmeth

    Fighter's get more feats than the other melee classes, that's it, so you could say that about any new feat that they add, that paladins or barbarians or rangers need more feat love.. Fact is that they get way more interesting enhancements than the fighter class, and at the end of the day it's easy as pie to slip some fighter levels in for feats.

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    I suggest adding this into the Defender lines instead.

    Each Tier of Defender could add 5%


    actually I'd per fer a complete overhaul


    Shield Use Feat

    10% Shield Mitigation (5% for Bucklers)
    10% Shield Bash

    Tower Shield Feat
    15% Shield Mitigation
    10% Shield Bash

    Improved Shield Bash
    +20% Shield Bash

    Shield Mastery
    +2 Blocking DR
    +10% Shield Mitigation
    +5% Shield Bash

    Improved Shield Mastery
    +2 Blocking DR
    +10% Shield Mitigation
    +5% Shield Bash

    Defender 1 (these are in addition to current benefits)
    +5% Shield Mitigation


    Defender 2

    +5% Shield Bash

    Defender 3
    +5% Shield Mitigation
    +5% Shield Bash

    Total benefit

    Buckler
    35% Shield Mitigation
    50% Shield Bash

    Light and Heavy Shields
    40% Mitigation
    50% Bash

    Tower
    45% Mitigation
    50% Bash


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