Raising dead people at the end of Shroud Part 4

[brian14]

Can someone explain to me the mechanics for raising people at the end of Shroud Part 4? Last time I tried it I got yelled at for (I think) being out of sequence, thus forcing a guy who had no intention of completing to complete. I will not even offer again unless I know the exact procedure.

[Thebeest]

in part 4 the only way to raise is when it is over, someone clicks on the altar and then someone (you) who can raise stays back in the room. when the altar is hit, there is a small window of time where you can select the person to raise them. that is all there is to it.

[FrozenNova]

Raisers remain in arena.
Somebody hits altar when raisers are ready.
Souls are deposited in the arena for several seconds.
Raisers raise.
Raised souls are then free to loot the part 4 chests and leave after part 5 without having to complete to return to them.

[Cam_Neely]

If someone dies, dont loot yet, as the lag can mess up the raising.

Leave those that can raise about where you first come in. One person clicks on the alter, and it brings the souls back, and they can be raised in a short window of time. Its best to use the 'F' keys for this, because if multiple people are dead, its hard to click on the one your are assigned.

If that window is missed, they will be waiting for you in part five. After Arry is dead in the fifth part, you can take the portals back to get your missed chests in part 4.

[SirGideon]

Even if somebody doesn't get raised, they can still go get the chest in part 4 without completing. Just take the portal back to part 4 after harry is dead in part 5 and get your chest and exit quest. This does require your other team mates to wait for you while you do this.

[Veriden]

Its not your fault that he completed. At the end of part 5 before you hit the altar people can return to any part of the shroud via the portals on the walls. All they had to do was wait an extra minute for him to go through the portal of waxing moons, loot then recall.

But to accurately answer your question I know you can get up to 3 if you have quicken spell. Raise dead > Ressurection > Raise dead scroll. Pending on ping if you throw a true ressurection in time I've heard rumors of being able to pull off 4 but haven't been able to do it my self yet.

[Sneakee]

I confused - you raised him and he yelled about completion? Was he going to leave after part 4?

Bizarre....he's going to die again when you hit the portal to part 5....

Anyway - basically, after the fight with Harry, once the alter is hit, you have a VERY short time to get off your rez.

This is why you'll hear healers/rezzers nominate who they will be bringing back to life. It can be done, but getting two raise dead's off within the timeframe is tough to do.

Still confused about why he was yelling at you...

In reality, you don't even need to rez dead people unless they are not completing and want to hit the chests in Part 4.

[Cauthey]

In Part 4, people that die go to a sort of "penalty box." Specifically, they are transported to Part 5.

In order to raise someone in Part 4, the raiser must coordinate with someone clicking on the altar to purify it (and subsequently open a portal to Part 5).

When the altar is clicked, dead characters in the Part 5 "penalty box" become targetable for 2 to 3 seconds.

Typically if there is a Part 4 death, someone with voice will go to the altar, guard it, and also request that no one open chests yet.

Those that can raise dead or rez will then make assignments as to who is raising whom.

After assignments are made, the altar clicker will count down, "Three...two...one...CLICK."

Raisers will be prepared with the appropriate F-key for the person they are assigned to raise. Or, they will be prepared to click on person they are assigned's name. Raiser's tap-tap-tap-tap or click-click-click-click when the altar is cleansed until they manage to get their person selected (subtly highlighted in white). Once selected, the raisers will cast their raise dead/rez/GS clickie/scroll, and bring the dead in Part 5 back to life in Part 4.

So long as there is coordination, and not terrible lag, it's generally pretty easy to do. In fact, practiced healers can sometimes manage to bring 2 or more back from the penalty box.

[Sarisa]

in part 4 the only way to raise is when it is over, someone clicks on the altar and then someone (you) who can raise stays back in the room. when the altar is hit, there is a small window of time where you can select the person to raise them. that is all there is to it.

Right. Once the altar is clicked, you have approximately 6-8 seconds to select the victim and cast a raise. If you're fast, it is possible to hit two people with raises. If multiple people died in part 4, you'll have to coordinate your raises with others in the group.

That will allow people who do not wish to complete a chance to loot the part 4 chests.

[brian14]

I confused - you raised him and he yelled about completion? Was he going to leave after part 4?

Bizarre....he's going to die again when you hit the portal to part 5....

No, I missed my timing and FAILED to raise him.

Which meant he had to complete in order to get the Part 4 chests.

Which apparently is not even true:

Even if somebody doesn't get raised, they can still go get the chest in part 4 without completing. Just take the portal back to part 4 after harry is dead in part 5 and get your chest and exit quest. This does require your other team mates to wait for you while you do this.

[Sneakee]

Ahhh - now not so confused

As people have said - he can still come back for the chests - he just needs to let people know not to complete the quest before he's gone back to loot.

Don't sweat it though - some people are just whingers

[Cauthey]

If you fail to raise someone who has been transported from Part 4 into Part 5, that character may come back to Part 4 and get their missed chest after completion. They simply have to complete, and then use the portals that appear along the sides to teleport back through to Part 4.

If they are dead-set on getting the Part 4 chest (most are), it will require them to complete.

Even if somebody doesn't get raised, they can still go get the chest in part 4 without completing. Just take the portal back to part 4 after harry is dead in part 5 and get your chest and exit quest. This does require your other team mates to wait for you while you do this.

Oooh, right. I forgot about that. Just takes a little longer, and the completers have to be patient.

[TempestAlphaOmega]

Something I have not seen others mention, which many would think is common sense, but besides the coordination between the Raisers and the alter clicker, you need to make sure the dead are waiting and ready to take the raise as well.

[TempestAlphaOmega]

and the completers have to be patient.

Ahhh the virtue that is in such abundance during many of those runs........

[aristarchus1000]

You got yelled at when they are the one who died, and you were the one who tried to rez them?

Anyway, good advice by others here. You have a small window for you to cast rez and for them to hit accept. I recommend using F keys to quickly select them and rez.

Rezzing multiple people is for those with mastery of keyboard-fu.

Next time you get yelled at, kindly suggest to them that they should try not dying.

[PNellesen]

Ahhh the virtue that is in such abundance during many of those runs........

You don't run on Orien much, do you?

[cdbd3rd]

.... and the completers have to be patient.

Ahhh the virtue that is in such abundance during many of those runs........

I chuckled at that thought, too. ...and I don't even raid.
Just the weekly threads here tell that story well enough.

[Cauthey]

You don't run on Orien much, do you?

Orien Shrouds are pretty patient at the end. The group leaders are often very careful to make sure everyone gets out that doesn't want to complete.

[Hafeal]

Op -

Next time, just tell your fellow PUGger to not die and he won't have the problem.

[PNellesen]

Orien Shrouds are pretty patient at the end. The group leaders are often very careful to make sure everyone gets out that doesn't want to complete.

Lol, yeah, to the point it sometimes takes longer to make sure everyone's out than it did to kill Harry in the first place