Kensei/Monk Build help

[meb410]

Ok, so I was thinking of a mix between these with unamred as the main weapon. I figured I might go 12/6/2 Ftr/Mnk/something else, but I think the 12/8 seems to work out a bit better.
Ok, so... here it is.
Sorry for some of the probably pointless feats as with this, there are SO many feats. I got annoyed towards the end with the amount.

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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Human Male
(12 Fighter \ 8 Monk) 
Hit Points: 420
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 13
Will: 9

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             18                    29
Dexterity            15                    17
Constitution         15                    18
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma              8                     8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    15
Bluff                -1                     1
Concentration         6                    22
Diplomacy            -1                     1
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                    -1
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  2                     5
Intimidate            1                    28
Jump                  7                    15
Listen               -1                    -1
Move Silently         2                     3
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                    -1
Spot                 -1                    -1
Swim                  4                     9
Tumble                3                     6
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Way of the Tenacious Badger I


Level 3 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 5 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 6 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II


Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Kensei Unarmed Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II


Level 11 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Intimidate   (Remember those pointless feats I was talking about. Not sure, but I tihnk this is one...)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Adept of Flame


Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III


Level 14 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I


Level 15 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) IV


Level 17 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Enhancement: Fighter Unarmed Specialization I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III


Level 18 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II


Level 19 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Enhancement: Fighter Strength III

Don't really know what else to say... What do yall think?
Is the race ok? Maybe switch to Horc?
What about enhancements? Maybe take a different line?
Also, how would you gear this thing?

(I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to monks, I've never gone over second level on a monk multiclass. Don't usually play fighters, so I'm just altogether not sure what to do with this thing I've made...)

Any help IS appreciated. (Though please no trolling and what-not, really makes your opinions hard to respect)

[elg582]

1. IMHO, 12 monk (12/8, 12/7/1, 12/6/2) is better; you lose 2 feats (more on that in a second), but you get earth 3 (+1 crit multiplier, DR 6/-, +3 natural armor), abundant step, poison immunity, higher unarmed die, etc. The DPS is a wash, so you're basically trading HP for damage mitigation.

2. Drop STR to 16 and put those points in WIS (yes, even if you only take 8 monk levels).

3. Mobility, Spring Attack, and Cleave are wasted feats; either swap for more toughness, dragonmarks, etc, or go 12 monk

4. Race is fine, depending on what you want to do; humans get better healing and skills, WF tank better, Horcs get slightly better DPS, dwarves are better balanced in stats, elves get the best dragonmark, halflings get ac and sneak attack bonuses.

5. Enhancements look OK; you will probably respec at least twice, so play around with different things.

6. Gear is going to be mostly monk, modified according to what role you want to fill.

[SpearKicker]

...Cleave are wasted feats...

I like Cleave. But I starting to think I am the only one who likes it...

Anyway, I think it could have its use in a Tank Monk with intimidation.

[edgarallanpoe]

Cleave is required for Shin unless you take Luck of Heros. Cleave is also an awesome way to build Ki. At level 12 I got a wicked pair of Paralyzers that I frosty bursted and there were times that I stunned 6 mobs at one with Cleave. IMHO, now that it doesn't break the attack chain, Cleave is a must have for any monk who isn't a pure finesse build. Even then it would still be extremely useful.

[TPICKRELL]

I like Cleave. But I starting to think I am the only one who likes it...

Anyway, I think it could have its use in a Tank Monk with intimidation.

Cleave used to be really bad because of its effect on the attack chain, now it's pretty reasonable-- especially low to mid levels where you are frequently surrounded by mobs and a single hit has a noticeable impact on their health bars.

[elg582]

Cleave is required for Shin unless you take Luck of Heros. Cleave is also an awesome way to build Ki. At level 12 I got a wicked pair of Paralyzers that I frosty bursted and there were times that I stunned 6 mobs at one with Cleave. IMHO, now that it doesn't break the attack chain, Cleave is a must have for any monk who isn't a pure finesse build. Even then it would still be extremely useful.

He is making a dark monk, not light.

I agree that it is the best choice for monks going shintao, but in any other build it will be situationally useful at best.

[smyter]

With this kind of split, you may consider getting enough monk levels to get advanced evasion.

[whomhead]

With this kind of split, you may consider getting enough monk levels to get advanced evasion.

Improved evasion would mean giving up kensai II. Which is to say that, while you might consider it, I wouldn't do so for very long.

[Kinerd]

I would go 7 monk / 1 rogue over 8 monk. You trade +1 damage from base dice for +6.5 sneak attack damage and UMD potential. I would also try to squeeze in Human Versatility if you stay 8 monk, Damage Boost is getting a HUGE buff in u11. Haste Boost IV is so good with handwraps, I would squeeze that in at almost any cost.

[redspecter23]

I value cleave extremely high on any wrap using toon. The potential to generate bursts of ki in a flash is very useful (more useful on the 12 monk version than the 8 monk version obviously). Use it with something like Vampiric Stonedust wraps and you can almost have your own wall of stone. It's heavily based on playstyle though so some will find it useless while others, like myself, can't find a way to live without it once trying it out. I can't wait to give it a go with the new third tier weapons in U11. potentially multiple aoe blast effects going off with each cleave has me very interested. Surely a fighter/monk build can spare one feat for this.

[elg582]

Improved evasion would mean giving up kensai II. Which is to say that, while you might consider it, I wouldn't do so for very long.

Why not? The DPS is a wash, all you get is a few more HP and 2 fighter feats.

[whomhead]

Why not? The DPS is a wash, all you get is a few more HP and 2 fighter feats.

I see very little reason to do an 11/9 fighter/monk split, which is what I read the post I quoted above as promoting. If you do go that route, then I would do so primarily to get touch of death instead of improved evasion. Now I know that ToD is pretty good for burst damage, and that its value is sacrosanct around these parts, so I will most likely get lambasted for questioning it. But the fact remains that it is expensive in terms of both ki and AP. It also does progressively less and less for you as you gain levels; enemies will save more frequently, and it represents an ever-diminishing portion of their total HP. In my humble estimation, it isn't worth it.

Now, if we're talking about a 12/8 monk/fighter split, then that's a different comparison. The DPS there is probably about a wash, as you say, and there are many other benefits to those extra monk levels. However, if you're going to take 12 monk levels and fight unarmed, then I can't really see that you gain much of anything over a 12/8 monk/monk split instead.

[elg582]

I see very little reason to do an 11/9 fighter/monk split, which is what I read the post I quoted above as promoting. If you do go that route, then I would do so primarily to get touch of death instead of improved evasion. Now I know that ToD is pretty good for burst damage, and that its value is sacrosanct around these parts, so I will most likely get lambasted for questioning it. But the fact remains that it is expensive in terms of both ki and AP. It also does progressively less and less for you as you gain levels; enemies will save more frequently, and it represents an ever-diminishing portion of their total HP. In my humble estimation, it isn't worth it.

Now, if we're talking about a 12/8 monk/fighter split, then that's a different comparison. The DPS there is probably about a wash, as you say, and there are many other benefits to those extra monk levels. However, if you're going to take 12 monk levels and fight unarmed, then I can't really see that you gain much of anything over a 12/8 monk/monk split instead.

OK, we agree about the 11/9 split

But 12 monk/x fighter gives quite a few advantages:

-Fighter toughness (and more HP in general)
-Extra feats
-Haste boost
-Higher to-hit
-Item defense

And, imho, you don't lose much from not getting monk 13-20 except the capstone.

[Dartwick]

Item defense is awesome and stuff.

[Luckness]

Item defense is awesome and stuff.

LOL. +1 rep to you sir.

[FrozenNova]

Take stunning fist. It's based off character level, and fonks can now reach a worthwhile dc with it.
Be helf/rogue. 10% less amp, same versatility, same adaptability, 10.5 stacking sneak damage.
12/7/1rogue isn't unreasonable though. Be human if you do this.
Spare feats go straight into toughness. Toughness toughness toughness.

[Therigar]

Cleave is required for Shin unless you take Luck of Heros.

I don't think this is correct. There is an entire laundry list of feats that qualify the Shintao PrE. IIRC I took Diehard last life.

[Therigar]

I see very little reason to do an 11/9 fighter/monk split, which is what I read the post I quoted above as promoting. If you do go that route, then I would do so primarily to get touch of death instead of improved evasion.

Improved evasion is much more valuable than Touch of Death. But, if going 11/9 then might as well reverse the classes and go 12 monk/8 fighter as was suggested earlier.

IMO that is the better split. However, I'm not convinced that any fighter splash (whether 12 levels or 8) is worthwhile on a monk. Lost monk abilities and loss of the monk capstone don't seem worth it to me.

[meb410]

Well, I took many of these much appreciated thoughts and ideas and made 3 builds. These are very similar, yet pretty different as well. Each has its own ups and downs and, well... I'll just show them to you.

First, the human 12/7/1 Kensei/Ninja Spy/Rogue

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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Human Male
(12 Fighter \ 7 Monk \ 1 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 452
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 14
Will: 8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             18                    28
Dexterity            15                    17
Constitution         15                    18
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma              8                     8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    14
Bluff                -1                     1
Concentration         6                    22
Diplomacy            -1                     1
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                     3
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  2                     5
Intimidate            1                    29
Jump                  7                    15
Listen               -1                    -1
Move Silently         2                     3
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                    -1
Spot                 -1                     0
Swim                  4                     9
Tumble                3                     6
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Way of the Tenacious Badger I


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 5 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) II


Level 7 (Fighter)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Kensei Unarmed Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 10 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I


Level 11 (Monk)
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Intimidate


Level 13 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I


Level 14 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) III


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Adept of Rock


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Fighter Unarmed Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III


Level 17 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) IV


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Kensei Unarmed Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Adept of Flame

Next would be the Warforged 12/8 Kensei/Ninja Spy

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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Warforged Male
(12 Fighter \ 8 Monk) 
Hit Points: 432
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 13
Will: 9

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             18                    28
Dexterity            15                    17
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma              6                     6

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               2                     7
Bluff                -2                     0
Concentration         7                    20
Diplomacy            -2                     0
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle               -2                    -2
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  2                     5
Intimidate            0                    27
Jump                  7                    14
Listen               -1                    -1
Move Silently         2                     3
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                 -1                    -1
Swim                  4                     9
Tumble                3                     6
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Way of the Tenacious Badger I
Enhancement: Warforged Tactics I


Level 3 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I


Level 5 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I


Level 6 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) II


Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Kensei Unarmed Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Warforged Brute Fighting I


Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1.5)
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II


Level 11 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Intimidate
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Adept of Rock


Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II


Level 14 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) III
Enhancement: Fighter Unarmed Specialization I


Level 15 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III


Level 17 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength III


Level 19 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Enhancement: Kensei Unarmed Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV

And finally, the dwarven 12/8 Ninja Spy/Kensei

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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Dwarf Male
(8 Fighter \ 12 Monk) 
Hit Points: 454
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 13
Will: 9

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             18                    27
Dexterity            15                    17
Constitution         16                    20
Intelligence         10                    10
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma              6                     6

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    21
Bluff                -2                    -1
Concentration         7                    28
Diplomacy            -2                    -1
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -2                    -2
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  2                     7
Intimidate            0                    24
Jump                  7                    14
Listen               -1                    -1
Move Silently         2                     3
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     0
Search                0                     2
Spot                 -1                    -1
Swim                  4                     8
Tumble                3                     6
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics I
Enhancement: Way of the Tenacious Badger I


Level 3 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 5 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II


Level 6 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) II


Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Kensei Unarmed Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Jump II


Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II


Level 11 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Adept of Rock


Level 13 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Way of the Tenacious Badger II


Level 14 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II


Level 15 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV


Level 17 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 18 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Fists of Iron
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy II
Enhancement: Master of Stone


Level 19 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) III


Level 20 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Unarmed Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III

To be honest, I don't know which would be best. I'm kind of favoring the Human with rogue, but I see the benefits the other two could have and would like everyone else's opinions.
Which do you think is best? Thank you for your help in this.
(And feel free to ask any questions!)

[CoasterHops]

I am running a second life WF 12 monk/8 fighter on Khyber atm, and to those that say u need 12 fighter for Kensai II I say no, no u don't, hehe.

The goodness of 12 monk I believe (especially if going full out DPS eg dark monk) outweighs the benefit of Kensai II, power surge is nice and all, but I'm running two mid 40s stuns as it is, stun something then touch of death it, min damage is 375 for the TOD alone, Im seeing failed saves alot even with only 12 monk, Im seeing TOD hitting 3 times regularly in fire stance.
For pure mob killing Dark Monk 12/8 fighter out kills 12fighter/8monk hands down, on bosses it may be closer but dont underestimate the power of Touch of Death even on bosses, Ki isn't an issue either.

Throw in the other benefits eg improved evasion, abundant step etc etc and you have a very survivable, great stunning build.

Next life is same build for me but with the existing past life monk and I am LRing to allow for a past life fighter as well. (Needs to be WF due to epic red dragon docent...)

Now rebuild the same build as Helf with haste and damage boost and rog dili and bam u have one mean build, or Half Orc even.....