Stop leaving raid loot in the chest.

[sheepface]

It is somewhat rude to just let it rot without asking if anyone wants the loot, but it is that person's loot.

It's also somewhat rude to assume you are entitled to other peoples loot. Surely it makes no difference to you if they take it or leave it. Either way you don't get it and have no right to it.

[Phidius]

Would love to see the face of everyone saying "their loot, they can leave it there if they want" when they'll get into a group where something they REALLY need gets left in a chest. Wonder if they'll think the same way after that

I've seen a Shard of the Dustless Boots (already got my Seal) rot in the chest because while the Shard was accidentally passed to me, I wasn't the highest roller.

After telling the highest roller to not recall, I transferred the Shard to them in the chest. Just in time to hear him say "Oh, I'm already out".

I don't regret adhering to the wishes of the original puller, not in the slightest.

However, if someone leaves loot in the chest just because they want to push people's buttons, I probably won't run with them again (if I bother to remember their name). For the same reason that I don't run with people who are rude, arrogant, or combative... I don't enjoy running with dbags. 'Cept you, Samius

Now if someone left loot in the chest because the group was being nasty to them? I'll applaud them and defend their right to do so vocally in the group.

[Hadrian]

If I don't need a piece of raidloot, I don't ask if others want it. I don't wait to see if anyone says they need it. I simply pass it to a random person in the group and leave. Let that next person decide what's done. Some decisions are just too hard.

I'll do that too most times after I ask once or twice and no one responds.

Usually someone who is newer and might be more likely to need an item is intently searching the bottom of the chest looking for any raid loot he might have missed, so he isn't paying attention the first few times you ask if anyone needs it.

Eventually he's going to notice, but I don't feel like waiting for him to start paying attention, so I just aim it at a random player in the group whose class is likely to use it. They can keep it or roll it off if they don't want it.

[mudfud]

I'd like to mention that some, maybe most, folks don't recheck thier loot after they have looted, so they may not even notice recieving passed loot before they finish out. Thus creating a raid loot left in chest moment, and possibly getting them in trouble.

Naw, when I go into a raid, I know exactly what I want, I'm usually the first person recalling or slashing death. So once I see its not what I want, its passed. But yeah I can see how it could cause problems if someone who I passed it to didn't recheck or autolooted already.
I just really think one of the biggest wastes of time is 1. Asking the group who needs, then it takes them minutes and minutes to decide. 2. Once people roll it takes more minutes and minutes to roll. 3. Listening to the stragglers rolling and saying they would like after more and more minutes and minutes of waiting.
Now in this time we've waited we could have possibly been halfway done with another raid, or nearly through with an epic. Or I could do what I see others doing just simply loot it to sell, or even go the route of claiming its for a TR I might do in 10 or so years. Passing it is simply the easiest way for me. Remember, I don't like hard decisions.

@Dexxaan I was in a von when the boots dropped with 10 other guildies and our drunk guildie gave it to the pug.

[Seph1roth5]

Ok I'm sick of any time anyone brings up a loot issue a billion people have to hop on and say your loot is your loot.

There's a difference between what you can do and what you should do, so stop posting about technical **** like that. A lot of what you CAN do makes you a giant jerk, and leaving behind raid loot seems like a big one. If any of that **** happened on orien I'd want to know who so I don't let them in any of my raids or join one with them in it.

People have too much condescending time on their snobby hands to come on the forums and argue with people for not using the correct definition of a word. We get it, you think you're smart.

I think the majority of players would agree that someone leaving a good item in a chest on purpose is sucky. They just don't post on the forums much. Sometimes people just want to vent and it's pretty annoying to post an issue you know most people would agree with you on, and have your thread bogged down by jerks who want to pick apart sentence structure and precise definitions.

[rest]

Ok I'm sick of any time anyone brings up a loot issue a billion people have to hop on and say your loot is your loot.

There's a difference between what you can do and what you should do, so stop posting about technical **** like that. A lot of what you CAN do makes you a giant jerk, and leaving behind raid loot seems like a big one. If any of that **** happened on orien I'd want to know who so I don't let them in any of my raids or join one with them in it.

People have too much condescending time on their snobby hands to come on the forums and argue with people for not using the correct definition of a word. We get it, you think you're smart.

I think the majority of players would agree that someone leaving a good item in a chest on purpose is sucky. They just don't post on the forums much. Sometimes people just want to vent and it's pretty annoying to post an issue you know most people would agree with you on, and have your thread bogged down by jerks who want to pick apart sentence structure and precise definitions.

Go back to Orien. No one here cares what you think.

[kanbeki]

Man i'm going to come back to sarlona just so I can do this, does serg still play?

[moops]

Nice Mud.

Make sure I´m the person that makes such decisions for ya next EV6 (when the friggin Boots drop).


Regarding this practice of leaving Raid Loot:

Junk loot is something that is random and people didn´t join you to gather vendor loot.... (if they did....well that´s their problem and theres plenty of McDonalds´ Dumpsters they can scrounge a meal out of.)


* If it´s actually named Raid loot I find it in very poor taste to leave it in the chest EVEN IF it´s "Your loot". -

Why? - Imagine 12 starving kids in a post-apocalyptic world wandering into an abandoned Supermarket, only one of em finds a can of Spaghettios (and a can opener for Civility sake) - Yet he doesn´t find it yummy enough and leaves it there.... (and NO, the other 11 can´t come get it later....)

Is that cool? - It was his loot right? - Should the other 11 guys just shrug and take it like "thats cool... I´d do the same"??

I didn´t think so either.


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Passing all Bard's Cloaks, Wolf Whistles, Seal of the Earths, and Prophecy Necklaces to you.

[Ilindith]

Passing all Bard's Cloaks, Wolf Whistles, Seal of the Earths, and Prophecy Necklaces to you.

Hey now! I like my seal of the earth, I have nothing better to use and I don't have to look like a giant turd when I run quests with it!

[Letrii]

Loot left in the chest are for the loot gods. Raid loot is the most desired.
You don't want to upset the loot gods, do you?

Chest for the Chest God!
Loot for the Loot Throne!

[NytCrawlr]

There's a difference between what you can do and what you should do, so stop posting about technical **** like that.

Because when I judge people on a moral level, I make sure to include how they deal with the raid loot, they received, in an online game...

We get it, you think you're smart.

Some of us know it.

I think the majority of players would agree that someone leaving a good item in a chest on purpose is sucky.

Sucky, yes. Worth ranting about on a forum where the same type of thread spawns about twice a week, if not more, and demanding that people hand over the loot they received to others that they are not going to use or be labeled the Hitlers of DDO, is downright juvenile.

[ballsz]

My loot my rules.

BUT

I have not seen this happen that I can remember, but I would think it a bit rude.

BUT

I do think it strange that YOU in particular keep running into a problem, enough that you feel you have to post it here, that the rest of us dont seem to have.... Maybe the people you have seen doing this dont think you earned it, or even deserved it, maybe they think you didnt pull your weight, I dont know I was not there.

I've seen it happen maybe half a dozen times with newer players over the last couple of weeks. I see it as a starting trend that I don't want to become common place.

And your right you obviously don't group with me and you weren't there, so to think that I did something to incur this is way out of line. Not to mention it was only once that is was something I actually wanted. However other people in the groups did want whatever was left. Never did I say it was things I wanted, just that things were left that were wanted.

Who would of thought it was too much to ask from this community for simple politeness... guess I should of.

[Munkenmo]

Anyone who rolls on an item and then sells it off deserves to be on everyones DNG list. I hope you have been vocal in telling your guildies and friends about this shameful behavior.

He could and probably did tell me, I wouldn't care enough about a pug to take note of the name.

I've personally found the easiest way to avoid loot drama's is to take what i want, or trust that my friends / guildies have let me know their desires in advance. If I / they don't want it it probably ends up left in the chest or quickly passed to who ever had the * so i don't have to deal with /rolls

ps. it is my loot and it is my choice and the above is what i'll do with it, occasionally i'll feel generous and be patient, but in a pug expect nothing.

[ballsz]

Hey now! I like my seal of the earth, I have nothing better to use and I don't have to look like a giant turd when I run quests with it!

You mean your not a giant turd?! All this time.... LOL j/k

[Ilindith]

You mean your not a giant turd?! All this time.... LOL j/k

I need a shoulder to /cry on now

[AmatsukaIncarnate]

One guy I raided with looted something and put it up for "Sale".
When no one was willing to pay for it, he/she left it in the chest and left the instance.

Ticks me off even though I didn't need that piece of loot.

[mudfud]

Loot left in the chest are for the loot gods. Raid loot is the most desired.
You don't want to upset the loot gods, do you?

LoL those were the days.
Still waiting for some MadStone Boots to drop cause I promised the next pair to the loot gods for giving me such luck in getting a few pairs in a few runs.

[LordPiglet]

It's also somewhat rude to assume you are entitled to other peoples loot. Surely it makes no difference to you if they take it or leave it. Either way you don't get it and have no right to it.

If I don't need it, it's up for roll/request. If the request doesn't come in soon enough it's vendor trash. I've never intentionally left anything in a chest, I did miss pass a tod ring, and once had a tod ring passed to me after recalling (which is why i now leave raids after recalling for the most part).

[LordPiglet]

You mean your not a giant turd?! All this time.... LOL j/k

That's like the pot calling the kettle black

[skaltervox12]

Normally I observe all the "My loot. my rules" threads with a sad sense of detachment that people can not simply work together very much like I view a BBC story about another dysfunctional country in Africa, Central Asia or the Middle East.

I Understand the rational behind your thinking, albeit I disagree, however I digress. It is your loot, if you wanna give it to a friend, a guildie, sell it, auction it, knock yourself out. I would never do such a thing myself but it IS your loot for better or for worse.

But to deliberately leave in a chest to vanish?

Now I can only imagine that people that do this are seasoned vets that have no use for it in any way shape or fashion. Good on ya guys! But to not allow newer people the opportunity to get that same loot that you were once given that courtesy to roll on can only suggest two things in my mind.

Either A, you don't wish new players to have the opportunity to maybe. just maybe catch up with you on the power curve, keep those kids down, wouldn't want to make us 2006'ers look bad one day.

Or B. You're a jacka** If someone said they wanted the item and you recalled out anyway, really, how hard is it to pass an item.

Your loot, your rules, fine....sigh. But what's wrong with helping someone else?