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    Default UP11 36p Human Rogue?

    I am about to TR my rogue to 36 build, but with upcoming changes to dmg boost (+% dmg of weapon instead of dmg points) and boss fortifications I am not sure about race. Halforc get nice bonus to STR, but human can get both haste and damage boost at the same time + additional feat which I probably would spend for Paladin past life for +dmg/hit. I would be greatful for advice which race to choose. If Horc it would be something like this: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=280364 (adapted to 36p ofc)

    If Human, build below -any advices and tips welcome
    edit: Fixed enchancements - Subtle Backstabbing II&III added
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    Skanny 
    Level 20 True Neutral Human Female
    (20 Rogue) 
    Hit Points: 272
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 10
    Reflex: 16
    Will: 6
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    24
    Dexterity            15                    18
    Constitution         16                    19
    Intelligence         14                    18
    Wisdom                8                    10
    Charisma             10                    12
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +any +3's I'll get before TR
    
                       Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               6                    28
    Bluff                 2                    31
    Concentration         3                     5
    Diplomacy             4                    25
    Disable Device        6                    28
    Haggle                0                     2
    Heal                 -1                     3
    Hide                  6                    36
    Intimidate            0                     2
    Jump                  7                    21
    Listen               -1                     1
    Move Silently         6                    36
    Open Lock             6                    28
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                2                     5
    Search                6                    28
    Spot                  3                    24
    Swim                  3                     8
    Tumble                4                    28
    Use Magic Device      4                    25
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 2 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 3 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Soldier of the Faith
    
    
    Level 4 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 5 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 6 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
    
    
    Level 7 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 8 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
    
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist
    
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Crippling Strike
    
    
    Level 17 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 18 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 19 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Skill Mastery
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Extra Action Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost IV
    Enhancement: Rogue Deadly Shadow
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
    Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I
    Enhancement: Human Versatility I
    Enhancement: Human Versatility II
    Enhancement: Human Versatility III
    Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing II
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing III
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
    Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I
    Enhancement: Rogue Assassin II
    Enhancement: Rogue Assassin III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy IV
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
    Enhancement: Improved Hide I
    Enhancement: Improved Hide II
    Enhancement: Improved Move Silently I
    Enhancement: Improved Move Silently II
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
    Last edited by Skani; 08-31-2011 at 07:30 PM. Reason: Subtle Backstabbing added
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    It's a bit sad that you can't fit in the Rogue and the Pally PL clickie. I like both.

    Especially with these two feats at hand, I think that Human will be a better choice than HOrc. But you might want to run the numbers on that.
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    Given the way things typically work in-game I'd go with the Human one. Most of our big fights are planned so being able to trigger haste/dmg/soldier of the faith all at the same time would be a really nice boost to damage when you need it. HOrc gets more damage the rest of the time but boosted damage is the primary thing that matters in most raids.

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    Default Numbers aside...

    ...it's tight. Especially since you had the forethought (or experience) enough to put points into Bluff.

    I'd play the H outta this build.

    My 2nd life 1/19 UA assassin (with Rogue PL) is alot of fun to play. Was considering a 3rd life as Pure Arti since he is my Crafter at 69/61/61

    But this build will fit nicely for life 2 of my lvl 16 Drow Strength Built Assassin.

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    Having myself a similar build on my 3rd life (tho SoS, rapiers and Quickdraw instead of pally PL + khops, but changing it when i get back) i can say it's a real fun to play but it takes a lot of high-end gear to squeeze max out of it.

    I can see a problem in your enhancements. Going pure with khopeshes and triggering at the same time haste boost and damage boost with this build NOW (pre u11) will make u pull agro in a few seconds due to low threat reduction (only 1st tier of SB). Now, wanna guess how faster u'll pull it after u11? A lot faster. I personally wouldn't build a melee rogue, let alone assassin, without 3rd tier of SB. I would drop eg. Dexterity, Trap Sense, DD 2 and Wrack Construct 2 and take some more threat reduction.

    Oh, and don't forget about new enhancements lines, especially Scroll and Wand Mastery. It's really worth it.
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    I'm planning on a similar build,
    but with rapiers and the rogue PL feat.

    your enhancements could use some tweaks,

    should be a blast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brzytki View Post
    I would drop eg. Dexterity, Trap Sense, DD 2 and Wrack Construct 2 and take some more threat reduction.
    Will do. Thnx for feedback.
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    Thats what i went on for mine. 36 pt human assassin
    http://www.ddochargen.com/home.aspx?build=3528

    PL rog and fighter. the fighter pl clicky is priceless: +9 to-hit for 3 mins and it feels like the attack speed is also increasing (not sure on that, but should happen due to full bab)
    Its my crafter, so he'll get 1 cannith feat. Will saves are a problem on rogues. I took the illusionist robe and +8 wis on the goggles and slippery mind. While i don't get really good will saves, they are good enough to not pose a problem.
    Was contemplating horc, but think my role as an assassin is to get those mobs the mage can't (e.g. drow casters in von3). And the horc would lower my dc by 2. After u11 and the midnight upgrade i'll hit DC 45 with assassinate, which is imo the sweet spot.
    Big problem is the gear dependency. I went for:
    Epic illusionist robe (for +7 int and the additional will save)
    Epic spiked turban (for +5 resists and nice slots)
    Epic hyena claw necklace (for +7 con and toughness)
    Epic mabar cloak (for 5/- DR and DB)
    3*fire gs bracers
    Dustless boots (hope i get the scroll sometime, or they change the desert scroll mechanism)
    Assassin tod set (with +2 str)
    Epic chrono goggles (for +20 search and spot, nice haste clicky, will save booster) switching with Tharnes goggles if needed
    Epic brawling gloves (for the +7 str and SA)
    Epic midnight
    Rad 2 kukri with +2 int, fire and good blast
    Working really well now.

    Cheers

    Ast

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