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    Question Rogue question

    Do rogues get STR modifier added to their sneak attack damage?

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    Umm... yes and no.

    No, they don't get it added to their sneak attack per se.

    But yes, STR affects all melee damage, sneak attack or not. So STR is good - it adds damage both when you get your nice sneak attacks, and when you're beating on stuff that's immune to SA.
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    Nope. These things may increase sneak attack damage.

    - Odd rogue levels (1d6 for level 1, 3, 5, 7, 9... total of 10d6)
    - Rogue enhancements (+12 for Sneak Attack Training IV)
    - Rogue Assassin PrE (3d6 for Assassin III)
    - Rogue capstone (4d6)
    - Half-elf rogue dilletante (3d6 but does NOT stack with rogue levels/enhancements)
    - Halfling enhancements (+8 for Guile IV)
    - Gear (for example, Tharne's Goggles)

    I don't understand it completely but I hear that the revised damage boost will increase sneak attack damage temporarily.

    To use an example, I have a level 20 pure halfling rogue. He gets 10d6 sneak attack from levels, 3d6 from prestige enhancements, 4d6 from capstone, 12 from Sneak Attack Training IV, 6 from Guile III (not paying 8 more AP for Guile IV), and +8 from Tharne's Goggles. That's 17d6 + 26 sneak attack damage, an average of 85.5 SA, with numbers routinely popping over 100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckness View Post
    I don't understand it completely but I hear that the revised damage boost will increase sneak attack damage temporarily.
    iirc, the upcoming damage boost change is a percentage boost to damage output, rather than a static +X to base damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckness View Post
    - Odd rogue levels (1d6 for level 1, 3, 5, 7, 9... total of 10d6)
    - Rogue enhancements (+12 for Sneak Attack Training IV)
    - Rogue Assassin PrE (3d6 for Assassin III)
    - Rogue capstone (4d6)
    - Half-elf rogue dilletante (3d6 but does NOT stack with rogue levels/enhancements)
    - Halfling enhancements (+8 for Guile IV)
    - Gear (for example, Tharne's Goggles)
    Add the Past Life:Rogue clicky for another situational +10 and 3 rogue past lives for an additional +3
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    dont forget monk path! ninja spy gets SA too ^^
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    The only things that modify Sneak Attack damage are Mob Fortification/Aggro, Enhancements, Items, and Feats.

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    i want to build a rogue how should i build him i want to be a rogue drow mechanic

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikelarupia1 View Post
    i want to build a rogue how should i build him i want to be a rogue drow mechanic
    I don't know much about Rogue Mechanics so the following build must have some flaws.

    Code:
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    Level 20 True Neutral Drow Male
    (20 Rogue) 
    Hit Points: 222
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 8
    Reflex: 19
    Will: 5
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (28 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
    Strength             10                 10                   10
    Dexterity            16                 21                   24
    Constitution         14                 14                   14
    Intelligence         18                 18                   20
    Wisdom                8                  8                    8
    Charisma             10                 10                   10
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               7                    31
    Bluff                 4                    24
    Concentration         2                     3
    Diplomacy             4                    24
    Disable Device        8                    36
    Haggle                0                     1
    Heal                 -1                     0
    Hide                  7                    31
    Intimidate            0                     1
    Jump                  4                    24
    Listen                2                    24
    Move Silently         7                    31
    Open Lock             7                    38
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                4                    10
    Search                8                    35
    Spot                  3                    29
    Swim                  0                     1
    Tumble                4                     9
    Use Magic Device      4                    24
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
    
    
    Level 2 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 3 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 4 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    
    
    Level 5 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 6 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Rapid Reload
    
    
    Level 7 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 8 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
    
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Crippling Strike
    
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
    
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Skill Mastery
    
    
    Level 17 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 18 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot
    
    
    Level 19 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Slippery Mind
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
    Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Deadly Shadow
    Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Rogue Fire Trap Lore I
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing II
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing III
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing IV
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Rogue Mechanic I
    Enhancement: Rogue Mechanic II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
    Enhancement: Rogue Wrack Construct I
    Enhancement: Rogue Wrack Construct II
    Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
    Enhancement: Improved Disable Device II
    Enhancement: Improved Disable Device III
    Enhancement: Improved Open Lock I
    Enhancement: Improved Open Lock II
    Enhancement: Improved Open Lock III
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
    Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense II
    Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery I
    Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery II
    Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery III
    Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery IV
    There is a long discussion, advice and some builds in the next link: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=266855
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikelarupia1 View Post
    i want to build a rogue how should i build him i want to be a rogue drow mechanic
    Then stop wanting to be drow, stop wanting to be mechanic. Go any other race, and go assassin.

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