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    Default DDO UNDELETED SERVICE – My (bad) experience

    Hi Thelanis,

    Two weeks ago I rage-quit (because of n00bs during a TR) the game and I deleted my 3 main toons.
    3 days later the DDO addiction began to raise up in me and I decided to make use of the “Turbine Undelete Service”.


    This is a great service, for "only " 19.90 U.S. $/toon a Turbine’s technician restores your deleted toon(s).
    The service works pretty fine: Turbine undeleted my 3 toons (for 59.70 U.S.$) in about 2 days.

    PRO

    1) F
    ast service (sure, we pay (a lot) for it)

    CONS

    1) If someone’s got your old name, your toon(s) will have a new name(s) = nameold(s). In my case: Fizbanius = Fizbaniusold, Horldando = Horlandoold, ecc…
    Turbine says “If the name of your undeleted character is already in use on the server, you will automatically be assigned a free rename credit”. But:
    a) I received only 1 free rename credit whereas I paid for 3. I’m still waiting for the other 2 (strange because for a service I paid for Turbine has been so fast)
    b) They don’t say that your surname cannot be renamed so if, for example, your toon name is linked to the surname you’re @°*!$ up. This is not specified. Please fix it!

    2) You lose ALL the items in your Reincarnation Cache!!! The service FAQ's says:

    What will NOT be returned with a Character Undelete?
    Things that will NOT be returned include:

    • Friends List
    • Ignore List
    • Guild information and status
    • Money and Items not yet detached in mail
    • Outstanding auction items and bids
    • Items in Shared Storage bound to the character being Undeleted

    All the items (BtC too) in every toon account has been saved. All the items in Shared Bank Account has been saved. But ALL the items in Reincarnation Cache have gone lost!

    I TR’d Horlando 2 days before my rage quit. What I had (and lost) in Reincarnation Cache was:

    3 * +3 Tomes (DEX, WIS, CHA)
    1 Epic Chaosblade
    1 Epic Mirage
    1 Epic Unkor's Cleaver
    7-8 ToD Rings
    Epic Boots of Corrosion
    Epic Charged Gauntlets
    Epic Envenomed Cloak
    Epic Scorched Bracers
    Epic Helm of Frost
    Epic Vulkoorim Fighting Leather
    Almost 200 Epic Tokens crafted on the epic items
    1 Bloodstone
    1 Tharne's Google
    3 Madstone Boots
    1 Torc of Prince Rayium II
    2 * Khopeshes Lit II
    1 GS Necklace of Concordant Opposition (5LDS)
    1 Epic Ring of Baphomet
    1 Minos Legens
    1 Tharne's Bracers
    1 Bracers of Demonic Consort
    1 Seal of the Earth
    1 Dragontouched Armor
    1 Epic Vambracers of Inner Light
    ..plus some other powerfull items I don't remember...

    Now English is not my native language but I understood “Items in Shared Storage bound to the character being Undeleted” = Items BtC in the Shared Account. For sure, you cannot put any BtC item in the Shared Account so I should have understood something was wrong.

    In conclusion: error maybe was mine, but Turbine please change the phrase from "Items in Shared Storage bound to the character being Undeleted" to "Items in Reincarnation Cache being Undeleted".

    Did I simply miss the point or something could be really modified in this service?

    Many thanks in advance for your opinions.

    PS: insults allowed
    Last edited by Ghibly; 08-30-2011 at 08:03 AM.
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    Wow... Must have been something pretty bad to make you rage-quit, I've ran with Fizbanius a few times, you're a good bloke and pretty patient.

    I can only say I'm sorry for what you've lost in game, if you need anything look me up.

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    Ouch. I doubt there's anything they can do to restore the items in the cache. You're probably not the first person hit by this.

    In conclusion: error maybe was mine, but Turbine please change the phrase from "Items in Shared Storage bound to the character being Undeleted" to "Items in Reincarnation Cache being Undeleted".
    That's a great suggestion, but you shouldn't have to point it out to Turbine. I would expect that Turbine would have the description accurate by now, especially as the service has been offered for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghibly View Post
    Hi Thelanis,

    Two weeks ago I rage-quit (because of n00bs during a TR) the game and I deleted my 3 main toons.
    3 days later the DDO addiction began to raise up in me and I decided to make use of the “Turbine Undelete Service”.


    This is a great service, for "only " 19.90 U.S. $/toon a Turbine’s technician restores your deleted toon(s).
    The service works pretty fine: Turbine undeleted my 3 toons (for 59.70 U.S.$) in about 2 days.

    PRO

    1) F
    ast service (sure, we pay (a lot) for it)

    CONS

    1) If someone’s got your old name, your toon(s) will have a new name(s) = nameold(s). In my case: Fizbanius = Fizbaniusold, Horldando = Horlandoold, ecc…
    Turbine says “If the name of your undeleted character is already in use on the server, you will automatically be assigned a free rename credit”. But:
    a) I received only 1 free rename credit whereas I paid for 3. I’m still waiting for the other 2 (strange because for a service I paid for Turbine has been so fast)
    b) They don’t say that your surname cannot be renamed so if, for example, your toon name is linked to the surname you’re @°*!$ up. This is not specified. Please fix it!

    2) You lose ALL the items in your Reincarnation Cache!!! The service FAQ's says:

    What will NOT be returned with a Character Undelete?
    Things that will NOT be returned include:

    • Friends List
    • Ignore List
    • Guild information and status
    • Money and Items not yet detached in mail
    • Outstanding auction items and bids
    • Items in Shared Storage bound to the character being Undeleted

    All the items (BtC too) in every toon account has been saved. All the items in Shared Bank Account has been saved. But ALL the items in Reincarnation Cache have gone lost!

    I TR’d Horlando 2 days before my rage quit. What I had (and lost) in Reincarnation Cache was:

    3 * +3 Tomes (DEX, WIS, CHA)
    1 Epic Chaosblade
    1 Epic Mirage
    1 Epic Unkor's Cleaver
    7-8 ToD Rings
    Epic Boots of Corrosion
    Epic Charged Gauntlets
    Epic Envenomed Cloak
    Epic Scorched Bracers
    Epic Helm of Frost
    Epic Vulkoorim Fighting Leather
    Almost 200 Epic Tokens crafted on the epic items
    1 Bloodstone
    1 Tharne's Google
    3 Madstone Boots
    1 Torc of Prince Rayium II
    2 * Khopeshes Lit II
    1 GS Necklace of Concordant Opposition (5LDS)
    1 Epic Ring of Baphomet
    1 Minos Legens
    1 Tharne's Bracers
    1 Bracers of Demonic Consort
    1 Seal of the Earth
    1 Dragontouched Armor
    1 Epic Vambracers of Inner Light
    ..plus some other powerfull items I don't remember...

    Now English is not my native language but I understood “Items in Shared Storage bound to the character being Undeleted” = Items BtC in the Shared Account. For sure, you cannot put any BtC item in the Shared Account so I should have understood something was wrong.

    In conclusion: error maybe was mine, but Turbine please change the phrase from "Items in Shared Storage bound to the character being Undeleted" to "Items in Reincarnation Cache being Undeleted".

    Did I simply miss the point or something could be really modified in this service?

    Many thanks in advance for your opinions.

    PS: insults allowed
    Sorry you lost some items that is a bummer but welcome back anyways


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    Ah that Mediterranean temperament...
    So sorry cause you're lose mate, tho to be fair you got that on you're back by you're own actions
    But you spend alot of $ for 3 min of nerd rage, and got "half service". I honestly hope that you'll get some of those items back ( at least one that you can see on myDDO )

    P.S.
    You should be able to grind that back, if you get CB scroll -> mail it to kkrosan he will be safe and I promise to use it in crafting purposes, nothing other

    P.S.S.
    Did you get granny back too with undelete payment ?

    Edit:
    And now on the other side you might now go Bastardsword way
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    When I remember my early days of PnP Roleplaying, I always see the tape-repaired character sheet of my brother.
    I don´t know how many times he did this.
    Now as an adult he just breaks the keyboard (cracking it over the knee, he makes no prisioners)
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    I don't know when the page was last updated but if you scroll further down to the section titled "DDO Character Undelete Policies" there is a warning about the TR cache.

    http://support.turbine.com/ics/suppo...uestionID=2674

    • The Character Undelete service is irreversible.
    • Any Character Undelete fees are non-refundable.
    • Turbine reserves the right to deny a Character Undelete request for any reason in its sole and absolute discretion.
    • Character Undeletes are not guaranteed.
    • Characters are returned as they were at the time of deletion.
    • If your character’s name is already in use on the destination world when the Character Undelete is finalized, you will be prompted in-game to choose a new character name.
    • Any bound items in the shared bank and items in the reincarnation cache are lost!


    Sorry to hear you lost stuff. My only advice, next time the noobs get to you hit Alt+F4 (really punch the keys, it feels better) and walk away for a few days instead of the delete button.
    Last edited by Rauven; 08-30-2011 at 08:18 AM. Reason: add link to DDO Character Undelete FAQs

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    Thank you guys!

    What I cannot undertand is why

    Quote Originally Posted by Schmoe View Post
    I doubt there's anything they can do to restore the items in the cache.
    Aren't they like Gods? Cannot they create a +6 set of tomes? So why it is possible to restore everything but what's in the Reincarnation cache?

    Quote Originally Posted by maha0201 View Post
    P.S.S.
    Did you get granny back too with undelete payment ?

    Edit:
    And now on the other side you might now go Bastardsword way
    Lol you killed me mate!
    Last edited by Ghibly; 08-30-2011 at 08:23 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rauven View Post
    • Any bound items in the shared bank and items in the reincarnation cache are lost!

    My fault, didn't read this. Next time I'll pay more attention.

    Thanks a lot.
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    protip:

    If you quit don't delete toons in case you decide to come back to a free game. I know it's too late for you but maybe we can save others from such a fate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghibly View Post
    My fault, didn't read this. Next time I'll pay more attention.

    Thanks a lot.
    Next time don't delete characters - move on another server for few days, weeks or take break from ddo.
    Else i might say in raids don't give loot to fiz / fiz need to give loot away

    BTW at what lvl was that low lvl pug - cause i personal don't bother to pug till lvl 8-9 ( tear, delara, pit )
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    Quote Originally Posted by maha0201 View Post
    BTW at what lvl was that low lvl pug - cause i personal don't bother to pug till lvl 8-9 ( tear, delara, pit )
    Irestone Inlet on hard

    ...ok I'm the n00b, I should have soloed that quest...
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    Unless they were multi-TR, wouldn't have paid 60$ for the service. Think of all the packs that would have bought and Artificer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghibly View Post
    b) They don’t say that your surname cannot be renamed so if, for example, your toon name is linked to the surname you’re @°*!$ up. This is not specified. Please fix it!
    Touching on this little bit that hasn't been yet.

    /Changesurname has been non-functional forever. Comes back up every once in a while, with much begging and offering-of-bribes, but to no avail.

    Pretty sure there's some back-field database issues that prevent them from giving us that option in any form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghibly View Post
    I TR’d Horlando 2 days before my rage quit. What I had (and lost) in Reincarnation Cache was:

    3 * +3 Tomes (DEX, WIS, CHA)
    1 Epic Chaosblade
    1 Epic Mirage
    1 Epic Unkor's Cleaver
    7-8 ToD Rings
    Epic Boots of Corrosion
    Epic Charged Gauntlets
    Epic Envenomed Cloak
    Epic Scorched Bracers
    Epic Helm of Frost
    Epic Vulkoorim Fighting Leather
    Almost 200 Epic Tokens crafted on the epic items
    1 Bloodstone
    1 Tharne's Google
    3 Madstone Boots
    1 Torc of Prince Rayium II
    2 * Khopeshes Lit II
    1 GS Necklace of Concordant Opposition (5LDS)
    1 Epic Ring of Baphomet
    1 Minos Legens
    1 Tharne's Bracers
    1 Bracers of Demonic Consort
    1 Seal of the Earth
    1 Dragontouched Armor
    1 Epic Vambracers of Inner Light
    ..plus some other powerfull items I don't remember...
    How in the world could you be so upset at a noob group in Irestone Inlet that it made you quit...

    But at the same time you've lost all that above, after paying $60, and you're not foaming at the mouth?

    How are you even able to type after losing all that? How come you haven't rage-quit again?
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    Ouch man..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ugumagre View Post
    Now as an adult he just breaks the keyboard (cracking it over the knee, he makes no prisioners)
    You're using a very loose definition of the word "adult" I think.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    We are no more d000m'd then we were a week ago. Note - This was posted in 10/2013
    Quote Originally Posted by Eth View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by TedSandyman View Post
    Some people brag about how fast they finished the game. I cant think of a stupider thing to brag about. Or in this game, going from level 1 to level 30 in two days, or however long it takes. I can't even begin to imagine what drives a person to think that is fun. You are ignoring all of the content and options and going for sheer speed. It is like going to a museum and bragging about how fast you made it through. Or bragging about how fast you finished a good steak.

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    Welcome back!

    I'm sure you're going to enjoy the grind to get back all that awesome loot (I'm not completelly convinced is this is sarcarsm or not) XD
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    Moral of the story:

    "When rage-quitting, log out and be done with it. Don't go near the character deletion screen"


    I feel for you buddy, that sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghibly View Post
    a) I received only 1 free rename credit whereas I paid for 3. I’m still waiting for the other 2 (strange because for a service I paid for Turbine has been so fast)
    Ok now I have the 2 new free rename credits.

    Thank you Turbine
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