What is the cap on AC for a pure DoS come U11?

[sephiroth1084]

Here's what I have so far:

10 base
+16 Epic Cavalry Plate w/Nimbleness slotted
+1 alchemical armor ritual
+7 Dex (3 base, 2 blue slot, 1 DoS III, 1 Fighter PL feat)
+9 Epic Swashbuckler w/ +7 enhancement slotted
+1 alchemical shield ritual
+3 profane -- 3 piece Abishai set bonus
+6 protection -- Epic Ring of the Silver Concord
+6 Paladin aura
+4 defender stance
+4 insight -- Swashbuckler
+4 bark -- Yugo pot/Bark pot
+3 dodge -- Epic Grimm's Bracelet
+2 dodge -- Bracelet of Tharaak (Mabar cloak or Cannith crafted if using Fabricator's)
+1 dodge -- Dodge feat
+2 Defender of Siberys ToD set bonus
+3 airship
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82
+1 Haste
+2 Recitation
+4 Inspire Heroics
+1 Ranger's Barkskin
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90
+5 Combat Expertise
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95
+1 Artificer's armor infusion
+1 Artificer's shield infusion (can you have both?)
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97
+1 dodge - Crystal Cove trinket
+2 alchemical - Fabricator proc
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100

Is there anything missing that is a reliable buff? No armor boosts or Halfling Heroic Companion.

[RedDragonScale]

It appears you're wearing 3 rings - Siberys Band (part of DoS set), Epic Grim's Bracelet, and Epic Ring of the Silver Concord. Unless the Devs have secretly added the Hand of Glory as an item, you cannot wear 3 rings.

Also, what do you mean by +4 -- Yugo pot/Bark pot? Which of the 6 Yugoloth favor potions gives you +4 Barkskin??

One last thing...How are you getting +6 to AC from Paladin's aura? That enhancement - Bulwark of Defense - only has 4 levels.

[Rusty_Can]

It appears you're wearing 3 rings - Siberys Band (part of DoS set), Epic Grim's Bracelet, and Epic Ring of the Silver Concord.

Grim's Bracelet is a necklace.

Also, what do you mean by +4 -- Yugo pot/Bark pot? Which of the 6 Yugoloth favor potions gives you +4 Barkskin??

Essence of Despair.

[Zerkul]

Grims bracelet is not a ring for medium humanoids.

[sephiroth1084]

It appears you're wearing 3 rings - Siberys Band (part of DoS set), Epic Grim's Bracelet, and Epic Ring of the Silver Concord. Unless the Devs have secretly added the Hand of Glory as an item, you cannot wear 3 rings.

Grimm's Bracelet is a necklace.

Also, what do you mean by +4 -- Yugo pot/Bark pot? Which of the 6 Yugoloth favor potions gives you +4 Barkskin??

All of the Yugo pots have a hidden bonus effect and a hidden penalty. The Wis pot gives +4 NA.

One last thing...How are you getting +6 to AC from Paladin's aura? That enhancement - Bulwark of Defense - only has 4 levels.

The paladin's aura without any enhancements grants +1 AC, +4 from Bulwark, and an additional +1 from tier III of Defender of Siberys, which improves the strength of your aura (vague, I know, but it boosts AC by 1 among other things).

[RedDragonScale]

Grimm's Bracelet is a necklace.

All of the Yugo pots have a hidden bonus effect and a hidden penalty. The Wis pot gives +4 NA.


The paladin's aura without any enhancements grants +1 AC, +4 from Bulwark, and an additional +1 from tier III of Defender of Siberys, which improves the strength of your aura (vague, I know, but it boosts AC by 1 among other things).

Ah, thanks. Not surprised about Grim's (the graphics of items have thrown me off before) nor am I surprised about the hidden effect of the Yugo pot.

I am surprised, however, about the base Paladin aura providing a +1 to AC!

Thanks again.

[sephiroth1084]

Can anyone see a way to push that up another few points?

[Thar]

Did you count Dex twice? 16 for armor and addition 7 for dex?

pirate tinket for +1 dodge bonus

[Beethoven]

Technically you could try fit the Abishai set using Helm, Boots and Gloves. This would free up your cloak slot for the epic Mabar cloak (+2 Dodge), which would free up your bracers for Fabricators and another +2 Alchemical on proc. Hypothetically spoken it could also give you +2 from Dex on proc but might be tricky getting your MDB high enough.

The only other option I can think on top of my head is a Nimble Trinket for +1 Dodge or (instead of the Mabar Cloak) a Cannith Crafted +2 Dodge Trinket.

[sephiroth1084]

Did you count Dex twice? 16 for armor and addition 7 for dex?

pirate tinket for +1 dodge bonus

The Epic Cavalry Plate's AC bonus is 16 before accounting for Dex.

I hadn't remembered the pirate trinket. I'll add that in to the end, but that feels like a waste of a good slot (Brawn's Spirits, Bloodstone, Gem of Many Facets).

Technically you could try fit the Abishai set using Helm, Boots and Gloves. This would free up your cloak slot for the epic Mabar cloak (+2 Dodge), which would free up your bracers for Fabricators and another +2 Alchemical on proc. Hypothetically spoken it could also give you +2 from Dex on proc but might be tricky getting your MDB high enough.

The only other option I can think on top of my head is a Nimble Trinket for +1 Dodge or (instead of the Mabar Cloak) a Cannith Crafted +2 Dodge Trinket.

That's a lot of juggling there, but it would open up another +2 AC, assuming the Fabricators don't get nerfed.


Thanks, both of you.

[Dexxaan]

Here's what I have so far:

10 base
+16 Epic Cavalry Plate w/Nimbleness slotted
+1 alchemical armor ritual
+7 Dex (3 base, 2 blue slot, 1 DoS III, 1 Fighter PL feat)
+9 Epic Swashbuckler w/ +7 enhancement slotted
+1 alchemical shield ritual
+3 profane -- 3 piece Abishai set bonus
+6 protection -- Epic Ring of the Silver Concord
+6 Paladin aura
+4 defender stance
+4 insight -- Swashbuckler
+4 bark -- Yugo pot/Bark pot
+3 dodge -- Epic Grimm's Bracelet
+2 dodge -- Bracelet of Tharaak
+1 dodge -- Dodge feat
+2 Defender of Siberys ToD set bonus
+3 airship
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82
+1 Haste
+2 Recitation
+4 Inspire Heroics
+1 Ranger's Barkskin
_____
90
+5 Combat Expertise
_____
95
+1 Artificer's armor infusion
+1 Artificer's shield infusion (can you have both?)
_____
97

Is there anything missing that is a reliable buff? No armor boosts or Halfling Heroic Companion.

* Can you provide the toon's name?

* Do you have Intimidate? What skill are you at?

* I don't believe the +1 Dodge from Pirate event Trinket stacks with the feat (anyone know any different?)

I'd really like to see the gear arrangement in detail, as Paladins are probably the single-most challenging class for optimizing gear arrangements.



My Pure Paladin has virtually Identical AC, but none of the E-Chrono gear is used.

[sephiroth1084]

* Can you provide the toon's name?

* Do you have Intimidate? What skill are you at?

* I don't believe the +1 Dodge from Pirate event Trinket stacks with the feat (anyone know any different?)

I'd really like to see the gear arrangement in detail, as Paladins are probably the single-most challenging class for optimizing gear arrangements.

Ferrumrym, is my character's name (all of my toons are in my sig), and I have my ruminations on gear here: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=308252

Off the top of my head, my intimidate will probably be...
23 ranks
+10 Cha (15 +3 tome +7 item +1 exc +2 ship)
+20 item
+5 Cha skills
+2 luck
+4 GH
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+64 unless I'm missing something
My Pure Paladin is virtually Identical AC, but none of the E-Chrono gear is used.

I'd be surprised if the Dodge feat didn't stack with the pirate trinket's bonus.

[Ralmeth]

* I don't believe the +1 Dodge from Pirate event Trinket stacks with the feat (anyone know any different?)

I have the pirate trinket and the dodge feat and I can confirm that these stack.

[Warganom]

Maxiumum?..

DEX:
20 Base (Halfling)
5 Level Ups
2 Completionist
2 Halfling Dexterity II
4 +4 DEX Tome
7 +7 Dexterity Item
2 +2 Exceptional DEX Item
1 +1 Exceptional DEX Item
4 Fabricator's Bracers
1 Litany of the Dead
2 DEX Shrine
2 DEX Yugo Pot
2 Store Pot
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54 DEX, 22 Mod


Armor Class:
10 Base
8 Armor Bonus (Epic Red Dragonscale Robe)
22 Armor DEX Bonus
1 Eldrich Armor AC Ritual
10 Shield Bonus (Epic Kundarak Warding Shield, if it is possible to slot two +1 enhancements in the same item)
1 Eldrich Shield AC Ritual
(4 +4 Dodge Bonus, can't figure out anyway of building this in without loosing 8 DEX bonus from the armor, or loosing the 8 Armor Bonus, or loosing Fabricators bracers which would loose you 6 AC)
3 +3 Dodge Bonus
(2 +2 Dodge Bonus, if this can be applied to trinkets through Cannith Crafting)
1 +1 Dodge Bonus (if +2 Dodge can't be applied to trinkets)
3 Profane Bonus (Abashi set)
4 Superior Parrying, Insight Bonus
6 Bulwark of Good
6 Protection
5 Natural Armor (There is a 6+ Natural Armor, but then you'd have to give up on either Epic Ring of Silver Concord or the DoS Ring)
2 DoS ToD Set
2 Fabricator's Bracers proc
1 Dodge Feat
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85 Armor Class Standing
1 House Deneith Defender
1 Clan Gnashtooth Kobold Shaman
1 House Kundarak Battlemaster
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88 Armor Class Ship buffed
4 Superior Defensive Stance
5 Combat Expertise
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97 Stanced
1 Haste
1 Airgaurd Haste
2 Recitation
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101 Selfbuffed
3 Halfling Heroes Companion
4 Bard Song
1 Artificer's Enchant Armor Infusion
(1 Artificer's Enchant Shield Infusion, I am unsure if this exists...)
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109 Raid buffed, 116 if you somehow get in all the stuff I typed within ()'s. And probobly even more since I most likely forgot something.

Btw, if you have more then 11 DEX Mod Icy Raiment or Epic Dualist Leathers will be better then the full plates, if you have more then 18 Mod Epic Dragonscale Robe will be better then Epic Dualist Leathers, Raiment still works if you can find somewhere else too add 8+ Armor Bonus.

[sephiroth1084]

Okay, I should have specified armored and shielded AC.

Uh...did you add your Dex bonus twice? Also, can you fit even half of that onto a single character?

[grodon9999]

Maxiumum?..

With the caveat being the build actually needs to be useful for something, that midget wouldn't be able to fold aggro over something right out of korthos.

[sephiroth1084]

With the caveat being the build actually needs to be useful for something, that midget wouldn't be able to fold aggro over something right out of korthos.

That too!

[Warganom]

Okay, I should have specified armored and shielded AC.

Uh...did you add your Dex bonus twice? Also, can you fit even half of that onto a single character?

You also get to add your DEX Mod to AC to the shield. So 22 for the armor, and 22 for the shield. And yes, you should be able to fit all that onto a single character.

With the caveat being the build actually needs to be useful for something, that midget wouldn't be able to fold aggro over something right out of korthos.

I never said it would be a good idea to get all this ****, but the title says "What is the cap on AC for a pure DoS come U11?", not "What's the most AC you can get while still be able to hold aggro?".

[Failedlegend]

IIRC being a dwarf can increase your MDB would that help??

[elraido]

You also get to add your DEX Mod to AC to the shield. So 22 for the armor, and 22 for the shield. And yes, you should be able to fit all that onto a single character.
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Wait, what?