Boot to the Face: First a wing nerf, then this?

[toughguyjoe]

in pnp FLY is a class feature of fvs, just A BIT more then abundant step, isn't it?

Actually, Monks are able to cast Dimension Door, which instead of making a blue door, in PNP it was actually a teleport that only worked to take you to places you could physically see.

So Monks and FVS both got their abilities changed to suit the game.

[Lehmu]

in pnp FLY is a class feature of fvs, just A BIT more then abundant step, isn't it?

In pnp, fly is available to a 5th level wizard. How many wizards do you see moaning about the lack of wings or flight in DDO?

[patang01]

The boots don't bother me at all. I like them. But the nerf to the FvS wings do. It's silly, arbitrary and solves absolutely nothing. As if anyone would be dumb enough to waste that much resources putting together a full 12 man FvS party to beat a epic raid by sucking pots and DP spam.

My feeling is that we're talking about less than a handful players that would do that.

[pHo3nix]

In pnp, fly is available to a 5th level wizard. How many wizards do you see moaning about the lack of wings or flight in DDO?

Yes, it uses a lvl 3 spell slot, lasts 1 min/lvl and you have to actually cast it. Fvs wings are just wings you can use whenever you want for all the time you want, no other costs involved. The way they implemented them before nerf was fine, they were a lot of fun and just let you move faster, nothing compared to what fly would be.

People still keep complaining about fvs and casters being overpowered in DDO, i guess they've never played DnD after low lvls. Replying that DDO is not PnP proves nothing, most people play this game cause it is based on DnD, otherwise we would all be playing WoW or one of the many WoW clone

[Jacoby]

So, first you clip our wings, then you let anyone use them?

Classy.

Yes, 10 minutes is a long cooldown. However, wings just went from "Moderately useful, unlimited fun, and cool/unique" to "Moderately useful and cool/unique" to "Moderately useful".

Sigh. I guess I'll just have to grind these out on my paladin when u11 goes live.

Wow! I want a pair!

[BrightAsh]

Hey just think u could get a pair for your fvs too... To help offset the limit a bit

_0_ badabongkaching!

[budalic]

Yes, it uses a lvl 3 spell slot, lasts 1 min/lvl and you have to actually cast it. Fvs wings are just wings you can use whenever you want for all the time you want, no other costs involved.

DMM Cleric. Travel domain. Persist Fly. At level 5. Your point?

[pHo3nix]

DMM Cleric. Travel domain. Persist Fly. At level 5. Your point?

Was just saying that fvs wings are better than fly and a core class feature, so it should be there, like barbarian rage, wizard extra feats, and so on.

[Candela90]

I dont like this ;p I like FvS better thasn clerics mostly BECAUSE of wings - its a gadget i like. I PAYED for FvS not so long ago, because i wanted to play it like it is - wings without long cooldown and all. Anh now they want to take it back?
Do i have to say i will never get my money back? Cause if u nerf wings i wont play fvs as my main, and maybe ill just skip to clerics :/ So i wasted my last 2 months and money to play fvs to this 20 lvl, caue i wanted it to be my main toon.

Its so unfair that u sell something and then AFTER some people buy it u change it for worse . Its like stealing,

Id rather like if barbarians got free rage and arcanes free fly. It would be more fair then than editing selled thing.

[fyrst.grok]

wow my wife just bought fvs via the store with rl money and is not to impressed with the changes she kinda feels she has been had ....

Oh come on.. If she never played one she wont feel anything except 'wow i got woosh!-powers'

I went to lamaland to test the change with my fvs (my main, so it's not like I don't play him).. Hardly felt a difference.. But then again I tend to beat things up in stead of winging around - I guess the evokers got hit harder than the melees.

I'm looking forward to getting new shoes on a lot of my characters now

[pHo3nix]

Oh come on.. If she never played one she wont feel anything except 'wow i got woosh!-powers'

I went to lamaland to test the change with my fvs (my main, so it's not like I don't play him).. Hardly felt a difference.. But then again I tend to beat things up in stead of winging around - I guess the evokers got hit harder than the melees.

I'm looking forward to getting new shoes on a lot of my characters now

You walk on your fvs? i just use wings, that's why the nerf is so bad, i'll become so slow :/

[budalic]

Was just saying that fvs wings are better than fly and a core class feature, so it should be there, like barbarian rage, wizard extra feats, and so on.

Oh, sorry. I apologize for snarkyness, then.

[fyrst.grok]

You walk on your fvs? i just use wings, that's why the nerf is so bad, i'll become so slow :/

Who said anything about walking?

Use 6 x wing, Annoy everything, kill everything, wing recharged.

Yes I feel it in town (wish we could have unlimited use there), yes I felt it when I wanted to zerg through something, but it recharge fairly fast, so it's not too much of a nerf - could be way worse IMO.

EDIT: With regard to walking: I've actually gotten dizzy from using wings when running prey to get my DT docent.. Hehe.

[Tenkari_Rozahas]

Boot to the Face sounds like a cool special ability.

only if you see this happening..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFldBVWFgWo

[Zharfie]

I absolutely hate favoured souls running around in circles, dragging all the mobs behind them... it makes melees useless as they won't be bothered to run around chasing the mobs...

and for the record, I have a TR fvs ... and I never do that to people!

I hope this change to wings cuts that down a little bit, but doubtful... I guess they should nerf blade barrier.. it's such a bad spell anyway

oh, and the boots are absolutely irrelevant to how favoured souls will be viewed as....

[Dragaer]

*looks at the boots*

Wow, they have 30% striding on them....hummm...why can't we have more epic boots with striding or slot striding on anything?

[rimble]

It was a bigger kick to monks when they gave it to Favored Souls.

Agreed...WT* OP...now you're actually making me enjoy watching y'all get this change.

[pHo3nix]

Yes I feel it in town (wish we could have unlimited use there), yes I felt it when I wanted to zerg through something, but it recharge fairly fast, so it's not too much of a nerf - could be way worse IMO.

That's the real problem: i basically zerg with every class, but zerging with my fvs is the most fun, after the nerf i won't be able to zerg so fast and i'll be sad :/

[Talon_Moonshadow]

Exploits: they're not just for certain classes anymore.

So, first you clip our wings, then you let anyone use them?

Classy.

Yes, 10 minutes is a long cooldown. However, wings just went from "Moderately useful, unlimited fun, and cool/unique" to "Moderately useful and cool/unique" to "Moderately useful".

Sigh. I guess I'll just have to grind these out on my paladin when u11 goes live.

But holy ****! Good buy Bot slot, hellooooo uber boots!

[guareber]

in pnp FLY is a class feature of fvs, just A BIT more then abundant step, isn't it?

Then why can't Sorcs or Wizards FLY?