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    Default Boot to the Face: First a wing nerf, then this?

    So, first you clip our wings, then you let anyone use them?

    Classy.

    Yes, 10 minutes is a long cooldown. However, wings just went from "Moderately useful, unlimited fun, and cool/unique" to "Moderately useful and cool/unique" to "Moderately useful".

    Sigh. I guess I'll just have to grind these out on my paladin when u11 goes live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenostrata View Post
    So, first you clip our wings, then you let anyone use them?

    Classy.

    Yes, 10 minutes is a long cooldown. However, wings just went from "Moderately useful, unlimited fun, and cool/unique" to "Moderately useful and cool/unique" to "Moderately useful".

    Sigh. I guess I'll just have to grind these out on my paladin when u11 goes live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TreknaQudane View Post
    It was a bigger kick to monks when they gave it to Favored Souls.
    True, the throbbing has mostly gone down though.

    I did not see any reason to give the monk power to FvS and then make it easier to use. Monks required Ki to Step and the FvS started jumping all over. I was even asked if my ability to Step was based on the FvS during the recent winter event.

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    i suppose if you aren't bothering to heal your party, or meleeing the mob... then winging all over the place using SP (and then crying about pot prices) would be all that's left to you... ?

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    Hey just think u could get a pair for your fvs too... To help offset the limit a bit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikuryo View Post
    True, the throbbing has mostly gone down though.

    I did not see any reason to give the monk power to FvS and then make it easier to use. Monks required Ki to Step and the FvS started jumping all over. I was even asked if my ability to Step was based on the FvS during the recent winter event.
    in pnp FLY is a class feature of fvs, just A BIT more then abundant step, isn't it?

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    Useful, but really not the same. One click every 10 minutes is good for an occasional hard to get ledge, but not nearly as good as wings, even in the needed form.

    The nerf stinks, but the item is a tiny part of it.
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    meh

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    Most times you only use it once a quest to get to those tricky places or bypass a 'normal' route.

    Abundant Step for everyone.

    Yes I was annoyed at the FvS getting the 'free' leap to get around town [SP recharge at all levels] and Monks limited to only slow cap Ki recharge to get around town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stardock85 View Post
    meh
    My thoughts Exactly. Let all the classes get a 10min wing cool down, this does not affect me. What does affect me is that once they implement one item with it, there are bound to be more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexp80 View Post
    in pnp FLY is a class feature of fvs, just A BIT more then abundant step, isn't it?
    Well, to be fair, in PnP Abundant Step was DDoor, not a quick movement boost. So both of them were altered, and both of them were altered for the better IMO.

    Abundant Step would be boring as a DDoor ability in DDO, and the quick movement speed is fun. So boring and situational becomes fun, situational, and useful. You win.
    Fly would be OP, just like it was in PnP. So game breakingly OP becomes fun, situational, and useful. You win again. Ignore the so called nerf. It's still fun. It's still useful. It is now slightly more situational than it was before. You still win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenostrata View Post
    So, first you clip our wings, then you let anyone use them?

    Classy.

    Yes, 10 minutes is a long cooldown. However, wings just went from "Moderately useful, unlimited fun, and cool/unique" to "Moderately useful and cool/unique" to "Moderately useful".

    Sigh. I guess I'll just have to grind these out on my paladin when u11 goes live.

    wow my wife just bought fvs via the store with rl money and is not to impressed with the changes she kinda feels she has been had ....
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    Default wow

    dont knck it thats like one of the nicest named boots ive seen ina while

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    If it said something like "It takes ten seconds to recharge between uses" you might have had something, but who at all would care about a once per ten minute ability.

    Edit: Actually, I wouldn't complain if it said that either
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkofDrasnia View Post
    wow my wife just bought fvs via the store with rl money and is not to impressed with the changes she kinda feels she has been had ....
    She's overreacting. She'll still love Leap of Faith when she gets to level 17.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calebro View Post
    She's overreacting. She'll still love Leap of Faith when she gets to level 17.
    thats what i told her lol, class will still be good etc bla bla lmao and if it isnt for her she just has to reach into my wallet and buy a diff one lolz
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    What a negative attitude..

    Oh other classes get this item that has a similar ablity to my class, wah wah wah im not
    "unique" anymore, and that also makes me uncool..

    Why not look at the positive way:

    Instead of my favored soul now being limited to 6 quick succesive uses of wings, I can now use 7 =)

    (5 uses = 15 seconds = 1 use recharged = 6, +1 from boots)

    7 fast wing uses can cover quite a long distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexp80 View Post
    in pnp FLY is a class feature of fvs, just A BIT more then abundant step, isn't it?
    casters don't get fly, nor should FvS
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    less buffing, more nerfing!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenostrata View Post
    So, first you clip our wings, then you let anyone use them?

    Classy.

    Yes, 10 minutes is a long cooldown. However, wings just went from "Moderately useful, unlimited fun, and cool/unique" to "Moderately useful and cool/unique" to "Moderately useful".

    Sigh. I guess I'll just have to grind these out on my paladin when u11 goes live.
    hey, you don't see us wf whining and *****ing that artificers get the ability to be healed by repair spells now

    don't even try to use the 50% effectiveness as comeback since the boot is EXTREMELY limited compared to the FvS wings and yet you are still whining about it
    PS: Greensteel RUINED the game! and you all know it!
    less buffing, more nerfing!!!
    to make it easier for those of you that wants to avoid me in game, all my characters are in "Bladesworn Mercenaries"

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    I like these. Nice consolidation and once per 10 mins is fine.

    I am trying to think why they would be overpowered, but I am really failing to see how.
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