Splatsplat - 95+ AC hate tank/DPS/High Survival PallyMonk

[Khellendros13]

Yeah ive got a epic Chao's blade if you had this on splat when she was still a khopesh user would you use it a lot?

Ive pretty much gotten all the raids I needed to 20 and the shroud shards to craft the rest of the greensteel, just need some blanks.

Im just a bit hesitant to tr now with u13 comming up, its the tome thing I don't want to waste any +3 tomes and I want to know what the epic feats will be and the preregs I dont want to waste any lesser hearts oh well its madding.

Yes I would use eCB if I had them. I used Holy of Vamp in Elite Amrath and it worked well.

I am not TRing Splat until after the new enhancement system is out - Something like SD3 + HotD2 or I am considering a TR to FvS with DoS2 or 3. Make it wisdom based like the 12/6/2 split. Huge Stunning Fist, Divine Punishment, insta kills and raid healing. With 800hp and lots of threat. Would be fun. Probably 17/2/1 FvS Monk Fighter. Just an idea at this stage.

[NaturalHazard]

Yes I would use eCB if I had them. I used Holy of Vamp in Elite Amrath and it worked well.

I am not TRing Splat until after the new enhancement system is out - Something like SD3 + HotD2 or I am considering a TR to FvS with DoS2 or 3. Make it wisdom based like the 12/6/2 split. Huge Stunning Fist, Divine Punishment, insta kills and raid healing. With 800hp and lots of threat. Would be fun. Probably 17/2/1 FvS Monk Fighter. Just an idea at this stage.

yes the enhancements changes are putting me off and even the epic levels I don't know what the preregs will be for stuff.

[xslasherz]

Con: 15+2+7+2 = 24 (tome, item, human,) +2ship+1exc+2exc+3Abishai+6stance = 38
how are u able to get another 2 from human cause after u take 1 u cant take another human ability

[Khellendros13]

Con: 15+2+7+2 = 24 (tome, item, human,) +2ship+1exc+2exc+3Abishai+6stance = 38
how are u able to get another 2 from human cause after u take 1 u cant take another human ability

Mistake I think. 15+2+7+2 is 26. The human bonus should just be ignored. So the total will still be 38.

Currently 14/4/2 Pally Fighter Monk with no ac to see how decent I can get the DPS. I might end up doing an LR back to 18/2 this week but keeping the Str high, 46 buffed.

The lack of feats is really annoying as 18 Pally, but at the same time I do not want to recraft everything to Scimitars.
If extra feats can be taken in the epic levels, I think Stunning blow is a contender, I could have a 44dc right now if I could fit it in.

[Shamurai]

I've been combing these forums for ideas on my Starabelle's next TR and I'm leaning towards this build. She's been KoTC two lives now as a TWF Khopesh user. Currently she's a 18/2 Pally/ Monk (Junts Aryenne build). I don't have most of that EPIC gear you list though..

A few questions:
1) It looks like you don't take any DoS pre req feats until level 16 (with shield mastery) so does this mean you don't even start this DoS PRE till then?
2) previewing your gear set ups I don't really see you even using shields, so do you? I currently have the Levkis Set (and Madstone) But not sure how they will be used in this listed build
3) What were your leveling strategies? HoTD till 16? Were you Intim tanking?
4) Speaking of Shields.. don't you lose all the monk AC bumps the second you equip a shield?

Thanks for the tips. I have the 3.12.01 char builder open and want to build my Starabelle for her soon to come TR just need to work out some of these detials.

Some of my current useful gear:
- min II khopeshes
- Healing amp khopesh
- Triple Positive khopesh
- DoS ring and Belt
- Epic Cavalry Plate, Nicely Runed DT Robes, Poorly Runed DT Plate
- Epic Brawling Gloves..
- Leviks Set
- Need another good ToD Ring cuz I have 18 trophies for adding stuff to them
- Conc Opp item
- 2 Lightning Strike Guard items.

[NaturalHazard]

I have a +3 con tome........ so I could start with 14 con?

I actually have a +3 tome for every stat, and a +4 for str and Int.

I got to take a good luck at how I will set up my final stats, and look at the pally enhancements as well.

[NaturalHazard]

Some of my current useful gear:
- min II khopeshes
- Healing amp khopesh
- Triple Positive khopesh
- DoS ring and Belt
- Epic Cavalry Plate, Nicely Runed DT Robes, Poorly Runed DT Plate
- Epic Brawling Gloves..
- Leviks Set
- Need another good ToD Ring cuz I have 18 trophies for adding stuff to them
- Conc Opp item
- 2 Lightning Strike Guard items.

maybe get some icy rainments?

LitII's are nice, do you have insight on any of your minII khopeshes? whats on your dt robes?

Kyosho's ring set would be a nice complement.

[Nenette]

The mystery of a hit point.

180 Lv18 Pally
016 Lv2 Mnk
020 HeroicDurable
280 Consitusion 38(+14)
022 Toughness
020 Item Thoghness
030 Greater Flase Life
020 Racial Toughness II
030 Paladin Toughness III
045 Green Steel
010 Draconic Vitality Agents of Argonnessen favor
------------------------------------------------
673 Total HP

673 x 1.2 = 807 DoS Stance

please show me a hp909 breakdown list

[xslasherz]

[QUOTE=Khellendros13;4350130]Mistake I think. 15+2+7+2 is 26. The human bonus should just be ignored. So the total will still be 38.


so do you even need to take human bonus for this build or do u still need to grab one

[Blank_Zero]

The mystery of a hit point.

180 Lv18 Pally
016 Lv2 Mnk
020 HeroicDurable
280 Consitusion 38(+14)
022 Toughness
020 Item Thoghness
030 Greater Flase Life
020 Racial Toughness II
030 Paladin Toughness III
045 Green Steel
010 Draconic Vitality Agents of Argonnessen favor
------------------------------------------------
673 Total HP

673 x 1.2 = 807 DoS Stance

please show me a hp909 breakdown list

For 909, he had 44 CON, not 38, so there's 60 more, putting it at 733.

733 x 1.2 = 879. 30 missing HP, which might come 20 from Yugoloth Pot, and 10 more if he has Superior False Life Or Barbarian Past Life, which I think he has. Unsure on that.

[Khellendros13]

I've been combing these forums for ideas on my Starabelle's next TR and I'm leaning towards this build. She's been KoTC two lives now as a TWF Khopesh user. Currently she's a 18/2 Pally/ Monk (Junts Aryenne build). I don't have most of that EPIC gear you list though..

A few questions:
1) It looks like you don't take any DoS pre req feats until level 16 (with shield mastery) so does this mean you don't even start this DoS PRE till then?
2) previewing your gear set ups I don't really see you even using shields, so do you? I currently have the Levkis Set (and Madstone) But not sure how they will be used in this listed build
3) What were your leveling strategies? HoTD till 16? Were you Intim tanking?
4) Speaking of Shields.. don't you lose all the monk AC bumps the second you equip a shield?

Thanks for the tips. I have the 3.12.01 char builder open and want to build my Starabelle for her soon to come TR just need to work out some of these detials.

Some of my current useful gear:
- min II khopeshes
- Healing amp khopesh
- Triple Positive khopesh
- DoS ring and Belt
- Epic Cavalry Plate, Nicely Runed DT Robes, Poorly Runed DT Plate
- Epic Brawling Gloves..
- Leviks Set
- Need another good ToD Ring cuz I have 18 trophies for adding stuff to them
- Conc Opp item
- 2 Lightning Strike Guard items.

The currently presented build is for an LR, so the feat order is not optimal.

I only use a shield when tanking and ac is of no use, like in Epics. It is a feat you can use for a variety of things that suit how you play.

The build originally leveled as a KotC. If solo mostly, I would level as HotD mainly for the neg level immunity and swap to DoS for Vale/Amrath/IQ etc. Without DoS you can still get a workable ac, and when solo or shortman the incoming dmg is reduced, and you have the best self healing of any leveling melee. 1 or 2 loh will probably carry you through most quests provided you have the ac. Stoneskin off min2 will block virtually all grazing hits.

Even taking Stunning Fist while leveling and use Vampiric Stonedusts or icy bursted stunning wraps will make it a breeze.

You will lose all monk ac bonuses using a shield...but retain evasion.

Do you have insight +4 on any weapons?
Icy Rainments are a must, but DT robe with +3 dodge, +5 resist and 20% heal amp will be a good alternative while leveling.
Slot 20% heal amp on DoS ring, and +2 str on a Kyoshos.
Is con op your HP or SP item and what slot?

What is on the DT robe?

[Khellendros13]

I have a +3 con tome........ so I could start with 14 con?

I actually have a +3 tome for every stat, and a +4 for str and Int.

I got to take a good luck at how I will set up my final stats, and look at the pally enhancements as well.

I have been starting on 14 con with the last few LR's. +4 in int is worth 2ac but makes it hard to qualify for DoS early on.

[Khellendros13]

The mystery of a hit point.

180 Lv18 Pally
016 Lv2 Mnk
020 HeroicDurable
280 Consitusion 38(+14)
022 Toughness
020 Item Thoghness
030 Greater Flase Life
020 Racial Toughness II
030 Paladin Toughness III
045 Green Steel
010 Draconic Vitality Agents of Argonnessen favor
------------------------------------------------
673 Total HP

673 x 1.2 = 807 DoS Stance

please show me a hp909 breakdown list

I honestly have no idea. Maybe I meant to type 807 but typed 909. I can't remember saying I hit 909hp.

xslasherz, I use the human enhancements to round out the stats. Depends what tomes you have used and if you want 1 more ac or 20 more HP or want to dump it into heal amp/Human Versatility.

I will always recommend triple earth GS or earth/air and earth/XXX for epics as a way to contribute DPS and CC.

[TiberiusofTyr]

I honestly have no idea. Maybe I meant to type 807 but typed 909. I can't remember saying I hit 909hp.

You have a screenshot with 909 hit points.

[Khellendros13]

You have a screenshot with 909 hit points.

Ahh. Madstone+store pot.

[xslasherz]

sence this is a 2nd life build what would u recommend for the stats as a first life?

[Khellendros13]

sence this is a 2nd life build what would u recommend for the stats as a first life?

15 15 14 11 11 12 - Use Human Adaptability to even dex, and Monk wisdom to even Wis. Divine Might 1 will let you put more AP into heal amp, and you will use Divine Rightousness when tanking anyway. This is assuming +2 tomes only. Tomes in Dex, Int are must haves, and +2 or better in everything else is critical for end game.

[wax_on_wax_off]

15 15 14 11 11 12 - Use Human Adaptability to even dex, and Monk wisdom to even Wis. Divine Might 1 will let you put more AP into heal amp, and you will use Divine Rightousness when tanking anyway. This is assuming +2 tomes only. Tomes in Dex, Int are must haves, and +2 or better in everything else is critical for end game.

Why not 14, 15, 14, 11, 14, 11? That's 2 points of extra AC right off the bat (assuming human adaptability+monk wisdom combo).

General theme is though that I wouldn't try this sort of build on a first life.

I remember that I did think about what would be best for a first life and ended up thinking that dumping strength in favour of a finesse build might actually work better as you can rely on divine righteousness for hate anyway to get better AB, reflex save and AC. Was just an idea, not sure if it would work in practice or not.

[Khellendros13]

Why not 14, 15, 14, 11, 14, 11? That's 2 points of extra AC right off the bat (assuming human adaptability+monk wisdom combo).

General theme is though that I wouldn't try this sort of build on a first life.

I remember that I did think about what would be best for a first life and ended up thinking that dumping strength in favour of a finesse build might actually work better as you can rely on divine righteousness for hate anyway to get better AB, reflex save and AC. Was just an idea, not sure if it would work in practice or not.

The build will have to hit issues without all the gear anyway, and Weapon Finesse would mean using Shortswords or wraps. Both lower DPS than Khopesh in this build.

I don't like dropping Cha (but did), every bracket less makes it harder to rebuff Shield. You will probably be using 5min Shield wands for a while.

The theme is an ac tank that holds agro over anything and can contribute meaningfully to DPS at other times. That is why I keep the Str as high as reasonably possible. It needs the to hit - even fully geared, pulling out an esos = more DPS in Epics due to better to hit and its craziness.

That said, any of this will work - they are just not what this build is about.

[NaturalHazard]

any suggestions where I can put my greensteel SP item?

The difference is I have my hp tier 3 MinII googles, instead of the von ring I will have the seal of earth. Otherwise I have pretty much identical gear.

I have 4 more lob's to go, im 1 martial cell away from a tier 2 air/air khopesh. I would like to use that while leveling with my litII khopesh with its +2 wisdom on it and also swap in my 30% triple pos one when needed.