Splatsplat - 95+ AC hate tank/DPS/High Survival PallyMonk

[NaturalHazard]

Yea you still get evasion in light armour. The +2 to hit is good without a bard. My preference is Arrowhead instead of Bloodstone for +2 to hit and Destruction/heal amp DT. Epic Vulkoorim Fighting Leathers is another option but over all the best to hit is Arrowhead or Bard, Destruction and Tharnes. Of course Epic Kronzek's offers Improved Destruction.



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Ive pretty much given up on the kronzeks seal man, got how many scrolls and shards but for the life of me can't get a seal or even the **** base item.

Arrow head I don't have either, i think I should start joining those give me the bauble lfms when I see them and let them know im a ranger looking for the arrow head. .

**** the +2 to hit doesnt stack with bard songs? pretty hopeless then.

The thing about thranes is if im going to wear full abishai set i will need to slot +45 hp somewhere and the best place is googles, like you have done, more hp for less to hit.......... not sure if thats a good thing in epic?

[Khellendros13]

Ive pretty much given up on the kronzeks seal man, got how many scrolls and shards but for the life of me can't get a seal or even the **** base item.

Arrow head I don't have either, i think I should start joining those give me the bauble lfms when I see them and let them know im a ranger looking for the arrow head. .

**** the +2 to hit doesnt stack with bard songs? pretty hopeless then.

The thing about thranes is if im going to wear full abishai set i will need to slot +45 hp somewhere and the best place is googles, like you have done, more hp for less to hit.......... not sure if thats a good thing in epic?

You don't need 800hp or even 700hp unless you are tanking, and then the SA to hit and damage is not happening.
Use Tharnes in Epic quests or when you don't have agro unless more HP is vital to staying alive due to the environment.

I wouldn't stress about Kronzek's, I probably wont bother. Destruction on DT is still very much worth it, and essential if you want to keep PA on for most of the epic mobs.

[NaturalHazard]

You don't need 800hp or even 700hp unless you are tanking, and then the SA to hit and damage is not happening.
Use Tharnes in Epic quests or when you don't have agro unless more HP is vital to staying alive due to the environment.

I wouldn't stress about Kronzek's, I probably wont bother. Destruction on DT is still very much worth it, and essential if you want to keep PA on for most of the epic mobs.

haha I might just make a cheap earth 2 scale pair of 45 hp googles and wear that with my full abishai set have have death block heavy fort robes or something. Why? just for the fun of having moar hp on a ranger for now, its funny being in epic then having someone make a snide remark about squishy elf rangers then pointing out that the squishy elf ranger has higher hp than some of the awesome barbs and fighters and evasion and a 40+ reflex save to boot.

[Mikjagger]

This build looks awesome! I plan on TR'ing into it. I love the HP,saves,evasion,self-healing, and AC.

One question... How is the dps?

[Khellendros13]

haha I might just make a cheap earth 2 scale pair of 45 hp googles and wear that with my full abishai set have have death block heavy fort robes or something. Why? just for the fun of having moar hp on a ranger for now, its funny being in epic then having someone make a snide remark about squishy elf rangers then pointing out that the squishy elf ranger has higher hp than some of the awesome barbs and fighters and evasion and a 40+ reflex save to boot.

Yea my HP item is triple earth. It's cheap. Useful in epic, but on this build you really want Tharnes on for the to hit. I would probably make it a cheap dmg guard if I made it again, as I only where it while tanking.

[Khellendros13]

This build looks awesome! I plan on TR'ing into it. I love the HP,saves,evasion,self-healing, and AC.

One question... How is the dps?

Thanks.

DPS is about as good as a Pally with 46str ,TWF and tanking ac can be, without being Helf or Horc IMO. Helf can give +3d6 SA and Horc more base str.

Both options mean 1 less feat, and Horc is less heal amp. Pally/Rogue Helf would be great dps...until you get agro.

That said, the best comparison I can offer is the time it takes to beat down the Dummy. My Esos, Red Scale, Eclaw set WF Barb is about 12 seconds. This Pally is 21 seconds if I recall.

I think it is pretty good when compared to other Paladins, obviously less than a kotC vs EO. Can't really compare it to a Barbarian or Kensei though.

I do break 50 as the first number on main hand wit ha bard song. 35-45 usually self buffed main hand first number I think.

If we break it down (main hand only)
5 khopesh
5 PA
2 Shintao
18 Str
3 DF
4 DM
= 37 + weapon dmg+charged gauntlets+10% doublestrike+ Ravager proc

I am still struggling with the whole video stuff, so maybe some screenshots from LoB tonight

I also updated the OP with LoB tanking info and refined the gear a little.

[BossOfEarth]

thanks!

[Khellendros13]

Did hard Lob last night. It was late and we went with no arcane or bard. 3 healers and an arti.
I died while getting initial Lob agro. We won but it was pretty messy. Learnt a bit more about the raid that isn't so obvious on normal.
I think with a bard, and arcane or 2, I can do it seeing some misses.

To hit was an issue without a hard too.

[NaturalHazard]

Thanks.

That said, the best comparison I can offer is the time it takes to beat down the Dummy. My Esos, Red Scale, Eclaw set WF Barb is about 12 seconds. This Pally is 21 seconds if I recall.

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hmmm does it take 21 seconds if you use a force burst icy burst smiting wraps in windstance, and the appropriate tod ring set? hehe the best dummy dps is not always the best indicator of real dps I guess, the horc, redscale, esos barbs in my guild are supprised to see my non AA ranger/monk taking down the dummy just as fast or faster than they do.

[Falske_bengt]

When you do shield tanking what shield do you use?

[stainer]

I recently healed this character in a ToD with my Evoker FvS. I used the capstone healing word, and heal scrolls. I still over 1000 spell points at the end of the raid. I would have had more, but I started throwing Dots, and a couple of mass heals at the end. This was a easy heal, and I would have had no problem solo healing it. In fact I did for awhile. The other healer had switched to the Sulu party for some reason.

[Khellendros13]

I recently healed this character in a ToD with my Evoker FvS. I used the capstone healing word, and heal scrolls. I still over 1000 spell points at the end of the raid. I would have had more, but I started throwing Dots, and a couple of mass heals at the end. This was a easy heal, and I would have had no problem solo healing it. In fact I did for awhile. The other healer had switched to the Sulu party for some reason.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. Actually the other fvs switched to Sulu because that is what I assigned her to do

[stainer]

Thanks for the vote of confidence. Actually the other fvs switched to Sulu because that is what I assigned her to do

It must be an awesome character if you trusted me to solo heal it.

[Khellendros13]

When you do shield tanking what shield do you use?

Madstone shield at the moment. I am hunting a Levik's, but might make a lifeshield Heavy Shield.
Also considering Shield Mastery instead of Quicken since LoB is what I am running mostly.

Stance+intim+Shield+Divine Rightousness+15%+10% = A truckload of hate, so SnB may be how I go in Hard+ LoB.

It must be an awesome character if you trusted me to solo heal it.

Only because you are more awsome.r.

[stainer]

Only because you are more awsome.r.

Crimson Eaglesr are awesome.

[NaturalHazard]

It must be an awesome character if you trusted me to solo heal it.

was this on hard or elite?


Hey im going to make MINII goggles anyway instead of a cheap earth pair. With googles I can wear 3 piece abishai set, tod boots and the mabar cloak. The 2 dodge from mabar cloak will be handy has I will prob tr, and get to 20 without getting the epic grims bracelet lol. So much competion with non-ac melees for the seal who want the 7 str and green augment on a necklace............ ? surely a shintao set would do more for them?

Also another 2 stoneskin clickies will be used. I have 2 seals of earth and the MINII helm so it will be 10 uses of stoneskin lol.

I also have the shard of the seal of earth............ scroll shouldnt be hard with u12, but getting the seal, ran 3 EDQ1's in a row and the entire party got skunked on all the chests, One guy did get the stinkpelts scroll, lol.



So leviks is the best sheild to use? I pulled one, but gave to a guildy, he did give me 2 reds though . hmmmm I might run more hounds then, the only sheild i got is the one from IQ won't be as good cause as a pally can't be true neutral. That would be a good sheild for a true neutral SD though?

[Khellendros13]

was this on hard or elite?


Hey im going to make MINII goggles anyway instead of a cheap earth pair. With googles I can wear 3 piece abishai set, tod boots and the mabar cloak. The 2 dodge from mabar cloak will be handy has I will prob tr, and get to 20 without getting the epic grims bracelet lol. So much competion with non-ac melees for the seal who want the 7 str and green augment on a necklace............ ? surely a shintao set would do more for them?

Also another 2 stoneskin clickies will be used. I have 2 seals of earth and the MINII helm so it will be 10 uses of stoneskin lol.

I also have the shard of the seal of earth............ scroll shouldnt be hard with u12, but getting the seal, ran 3 EDQ1's in a row and the entire party got skunked on all the chests, One guy did get the stinkpelts scroll, lol.



So leviks is the best sheild to use? I pulled one, but gave to a guildy, he did give me 2 reds though . hmmmm I might run more hounds then, the only sheild i got is the one from IQ won't be as good cause as a pally can't be true neutral. That would be a good sheild for a true neutral SD though?

That was normal ToD Stainer healed, though I did a Hard one last night with Xanet (Cleric) solo healing me with SP to spare.

Levik's is ideal, but if you are TN then a Lifeshield of Greater Stability Tower Shield is a good option if you can craft it.

I swapped in Shield Mastery instead of Quicken last night, and tanked a normal LoB SnB. Had no agro issues (Used intim, DR sparingly). I used a crafted Lifeshield Mithral Heavy Shield and +5 Holyburst Adamantine Khopesh of Greater Construct Bane.

Min2 Helm for Ranger seems like a good idea, Hvy Fort and Prot+5, and you don't need the Cha +7.

[NaturalHazard]

That was normal ToD Stainer healed, though I did a Hard one last night with Xanet (Cleric) solo healing me with SP to spare.

Levik's is ideal, but if you are TN then a Lifeshield of Greater Stability Tower Shield is a good option if you can craft it.

I swapped in Shield Mastery instead of Quicken last night, and tanked a normal LoB SnB. Had no agro issues (Used intim, DR sparingly). I used a crafted Lifeshield Mithral Heavy Shield and +5 Holyburst Adamantine Khopesh of Greater Construct Bane.

Min2 Helm for Ranger seems like a good idea, Hvy Fort and Prot+5, and you don't need the Cha +7.

you said that your concentration is high enough that you rarely need to use quicken on this build or something like that? For someone who is not use to playing paladin with the having to keep spells up, would extend be useful for a pally noob like me?

[sephiroth1084]

+5 Holyburst Adamantine Khopesh of Greater Construct Bane.

I've done absolutely zero Cannith crafting, and know only slightly more about it than that...can you make me one of those? Well, as a scimitar? (I have a fair number of ingredients that I haven't done anything with).

Also, I've only done LoB once...what is his Fort like? I'd imagine 100% or higher, since he is a construct...are we getting crits on him? I didn't notice on my first run, as I was trying to take in everything else going on.

[Khellendros13]

you said that your concentration is high enough that you rarely need to use quicken on this build or something like that? For someone who is not use to playing paladin with the having to keep spells up, would extend be useful for a pally noob like me?

Hang on, are you TRing to Pally or rolling a new one? I thought the Min2 Helm was for your Ranger?

If Pally, I really would stick with the Epic Helm of Frost as a perma +7 cha and Yellow slot.
Heavy Fort should be on the Bracers.

If you have a Torc and SP item, Quicken will be awesome. If not, then Extend is fine. There is the Pally aura enhancement that boosts concentration by +3 each tier, and the first tier is a pre req for DoS. You could take a few tiers while leveling.

I have around 48 concentration without +15 item (Shintao Cord). It is about 69 with Shintao Cord and triple earth HP item.

You will probably have a decent concentration score as a TR and just use a crafted item to boost it. With CE on, the SP can get drained fast if you are spamming the cures (like red alert hard Sins etc).

All up, that slot has a lot of freedom depending on what you are doing with the build mostly and what stage it is at. As I said above I have Shield Mastery there now, which is more valuable than Quicken while tanking LoB.

I've done absolutely zero Cannith crafting, and know only slightly more about it than that...can you make me one of those? Well, as a scimitar? (I have a fair number of ingredients that I haven't done anything with).

Also, I've only done LoB once...what is his Fort like? I'd imagine 100% or higher, since he is a construct...are we getting crits on him? I didn't notice on my first run, as I was trying to take in everything else going on.

I think his Fort on Normal is 25-50%, closer to 25% I reckon since I do get a fair number of crits.

I'm not sure if GCB can be crafted unbound...I know I can make Construct Bane unbound, but that is 45 addy ore + triple the essences for shards of potential compared to bound. If oyu have a lot of essences saved up, hitting 40ish in crafting levels is probably a better idea.