Monks and UMD, how much UMD?

[Newbie]

Hey guys, I was making a pure monk and wanted to fit in UMD into the build. How much UMD should I be aiming to get as a monk in order to use buff/rez scrolls and such?

[FrozenNova]

Rez is 36.
Heal is 40.

11 ranks + 4 gh + 2 good luck + 6 greensteel + 5 sevenfingered + 3 epic big top +2 ship buffs to skills and charisma = 33

So you need 22 charisma for nofail fully geared buffed heal. So, with a +4 tome, a +7 item, and +3 exceptional.. you can hit nofail heal on a monk with 8 charisma.

Not that you ever would.

[Newbie]

Rez is 36.
Heal is 40.

11 ranks + 4 gh + 2 good luck + 6 greensteel + 5 sevenfingered + 3 epic big top +2 ship buffs to skills and charisma = 33

So you need 22 charisma for nofail fully geared buffed heal. So, with a +4 tome, a +7 item, and +3 exceptional.. you can hit nofail heal on a monk with 8 charisma.

Not that you ever would.

So not really worth it?

[wax_on_wax_off]

So not really worth it?

Course it's worth it. The other stuff is still amazing.

Few ideas:
Monks get amazing heal amp, don't worry so much about heal scrolls when a cure wand will do the trick.
Invisibility, displacement, fireshield, teleport, raise dead are all great and don't need 100% to be useful.

You can get +5 from human versatility (half-elves in u11 are pretty mean for DPS with damage boost and rogue dilettante).

[Newbie]

Course it's worth it. The other stuff is still amazing.

Few ideas:
Monks get amazing heal amp, don't worry so much about heal scrolls when a cure wand will do the trick.
Invisibility, displacement, fireshield, teleport, raise dead are all great and don't need 100% to be useful.

You can get +5 from human versatility (half-elves in u11 are pretty mean for DPS with damage boost and rogue dilettante).

Awesome! Great to hear, UMD will go awesome with my theme.

[Enoach]

You don't need no fail "High End" Scrolls to be effective... Such as what has already been posted. Just getting access to alternate Survival items for cheaper then potions can make life a bit easier and keep more coin in the pocket.

To figure out UMD of a spell on Wand/Scroll

UMD Score = 18 + (2 * Caster Level of Spell)

Level 1 Spell has a 20 UMD Check for No Fail (UMD score of 19+)
Level 2 Spell has a 24 UMD Check for No Fail (UMD score of 23+)
Level 3 Spell has a 28 UMD Check for No Fail (UMD score of 27+)
Level 4 Spell has a 32 UMD Check for No Fail (UMD score of 31+)
Level 5 Spell has a 36 UMD Check for No Fail (UMD score of 35+)
Level 6 Spell has a 40 UMD Check for No Fail (UMD score of 39+)
Level 7 Spell has a 44 UMD Check for No Fail (UMD score of 43+)
Level 8 Spell has a 48 UMD Check for No Fail (UMD score of 47+)
Level 9 Spell has a 52 UMD Check for No Fail (UMD score of 51+)

Taking this information for 100% subtract 10 from the UMD score and you will get the 50% chance UMD Score needed for each level

Also don't forget that the Shield Spell comes in wands of lvl1 (20 UMD Check), 5 (28 UMD Check) and 10 (38 UMD Check)

[GeoBob]

Umd is always worth fitting into any build if you can. Some builds(like monks) are harder due to lower charisma. But, what I have found useful is not concentrating on Umd at all while lvling get the gear, and at higher lvl lesser reincarnated. That way you can spend skill points on more useful lvling skills.

[thandros]

i found Umd much more useful as a fighter than i did as a monk one i made a few raise dead clickys

[Newbie]

i found Umd much more useful as a fighter than i did as a monk one i made a few raise dead clickys

Is there a teleport clicky too?

[jandhaer]

Max it thats all you need to know. UMD is an all or nothing skill.

[Barak_Hammerhand]

Is there a teleport clicky too?

Royal guard mask from Bring Me the Head of Ghola-Fan!.

[thandros]

i have max umd on my wf monk I used umd for scrolls all the time on my fighter but rarely need to on my monk.only my wf monk i get about 28? umd when i was a human fighter i was around 35 or so ?