Hybrid Cleric

[Kalanth]

I am doubtful that I would ever take this idea serious enough to actually try it in DDO, but I wanted to try and generate a DDO version of a PnP character I am playing. The character is, basically, an undead hunter. There are a few distinct differences between the Pathfinder version and the DDO version. For example, in Pathfinder Half-Orcs have no negatives to abilities and can place a +2 wherever they wish. Still, with the sacrifices made to charisma I am not bothered by this as there is little point to trying to turn undead in DDO. With this particular character he is set to buff with the advantage of Extend. This is a sacrificial feat, however, and can easily be replaced with any of the metamagic feats as the user sees fit. Replacing it with Empower Healing, for example, increases not only the characters healing abilities in the party but also the damage that the character can deal to the undead forces that they encounter. There is no focus on weaponry here, either, outside of the fact that you want to use light weapons to take advantage of Weapon Finesse. The addition of the single level in fighter and the timing of the level are important as that opens up the option of taking Greater Two-Weapon Fighting to this character as well, thus increasing their abilities even further. Additionally, the character dips into the Tempest PrC for a boost in the combat speed. While a skill player could take this character and be the lead healer in a basic quest, I would not advise trying to be the primary healer in any raid as your spells will be well behind the potential of other clerics in the quest.

Still, if I was to take this one more serious, what would the suggestions be to improving on the concept?

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.09.02
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Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Orc Male
(1 Fighter \ 6 Ranger \ 13 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 274
Spell Points: 1134 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 14
Will: 17

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             13                    16
Dexterity            17                    20
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence          6                     6
Wisdom               16                    24
Charisma              6                     6

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 20
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                     5
Bluff                -2                    -2
Concentration         6                    24
Diplomacy            -2                    -2
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -2                    -2
Heal                  3                     7
Hide                  3                    11
Intimidate           -2                    -2
Jump                  1                    10
Listen                3                     7
Move Silently         3                    11
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair               -2                    -2
Search               -2                    -2
Spot                  3                     7
Swim                  1                     3
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse


Level 4 (Cleric)


Level 5 (Cleric)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility


Level 7 (Ranger)


Level 8 (Ranger)


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack


Level 10 (Cleric)


Level 11 (Cleric)


Level 12 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 13 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 14 (Cleric)


Level 15 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 16 (Cleric)


Level 17 (Cleric)


Level 18 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness


Level 19 (Cleric)


Level 20 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Orcish Fury I
Enhancement: Orcish Fury II
Enhancement: Orcish Fury III
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance I
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life III
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot III
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot IV
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I

[Baahb3]

About the only thing I would probably change is dumping mental toughness for either Quicken Spell since you will be in melee some or Improved Critical to help out your damage.

Extend Spell might also be swapped out for Empower healing allowing you to take Radiant Servant PrE. You probably won't have enough turn attempts to make use of the burst alot but you should be able to keep the aura up all the time.

[k1ngp1n]

Drop the Tempest PRE. Three feats for 10% offhand is a really, really horrible tradeoff.

Use those three feats for Improved Critical, Power Attack, and Empower Healing. IC and Power Attack will be a greater damage gain over the 10% offhand, and Empower Healing will make to so you don't totally suck at healing (right now it does). The lack of Quicken is problematic as well. This is where burning a feat on Finesse sucks, but if its the character concept, so be it. Swap Extend for Quicken. (Even better would be human for the extra feat and future changes to human versatility).

Going Dex based on a Horc is completely anti-thetical to the whole thing. I have a liking for characters that do stuff they weren't 'intended,' so if its a roleplay thing go for it. But be aware thats gonna leave some people scratching their head.

Other suggestions:

Orcish Fury sucks. Drop it.
Improved Spell Penn enhancements are a waste, you won't make your spell pen checks anyway. Drop it.
Fighter critical accuracy sucks. Drop it.

In place, take Radiant Servant and Fighter Haste Boost 1.
Think that's about it.

[Kalanth]

Enhancement cost might be off here. The DDO planner confirmed the character meets all the requirements for Radiant Servant, but it would not let me select the enhancements so I just wrote them in.

In this version I swap out Weapon Finesse for Oversized-TWF for dual wielding Scimitars. With some additional shifting around you could replace Extend or Mental Toughness for Kopesh and dual wield those insted. Also adding in the Empower Healing feat and Radiant Servant to increase the healing abilities further.

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.09.02
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Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Orc Male
(1 Fighter \ 6 Ranger \ 13 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 274
Spell Points: 1134 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 14
Will: 17

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             13                    16
Dexterity            17                    20
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence          6                     6
Wisdom               16                    24
Charisma              6                     6

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 20
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                     5
Bluff                -2                    -2
Concentration         6                    24
Diplomacy            -2                    -2
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -2                    -2
Heal                  3                     9
Hide                  3                    11
Intimidate           -2                    -2
Jump                  1                    10
Listen                3                     7
Move Silently         3                    11
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair               -2                    -2
Search               -2                    -2
Spot                  3                     7
Swim                  1                     3
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 4 (Cleric)


Level 5 (Cleric)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting


Level 7 (Ranger)


Level 8 (Ranger)


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Cleric)


Level 11 (Cleric)


Level 12 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 13 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 14 (Cleric)


Level 15 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 16 (Cleric)


Level 17 (Cleric)


Level 18 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness


Level 19 (Cleric)


Level 20 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant I
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant II
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Empower Healing I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance I
Enhancement: Improved Heal I
Enhancement: Improved Heal II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life III
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot III
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot IV
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning I

[unbongwah]

Additionally, the character dips into the Tempest PrC for a boost in the combat speed.

Tempest I no longer provides +10% atk speed; it now provides +10% offhand proc chance, or the equivalent of half a regular TWF feat. As such it's not really worth the 3 feats and 6 rgr lvls to get it, unfortunately; though you might do rgr 6 for everything else it provides.

I have to say I'm not seeing a lot of synergies in this build. You go HO but choose to go Finesse-based TWF (neither of which plays to a HO's strengths at, well, STR); you go WIS-based but with only 13 cleric lvls your caster DPS will be subpar; and as noted you don't have Radiant Servant, which is like the best part of being a cleric (and radiant bursts / auras do harm undead, which fits into the undead hunter theme).

Presuming this is meant as a novelty / themed build, I have an alternative idea: a melee-focused HO THF monk 2 / pally 6 / cleric 12. Monk for Evasion & feats; pally for the saves boosts, immunities, and DPS; cleric for buffs, heals, and RadServ II. Unfortunately, you can't combine Hunter of the Dead with RadServ.

Here's a first stab at the idea (with the caveat I am really sleepy right now ):

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.09.02
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Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Orc Female
(6 Paladin \ 2 Monk \ 12 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 319
Spell Points: 723 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 13
Will: 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             18                    27
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence          6                     6
Wisdom               14                    16
Charisma             14                    16

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 20
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 20

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 2 (Paladin)


Level 3 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 6 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 7 (Cleric)


Level 8 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 10 (Cleric)


Level 11 (Cleric)


Level 12 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Cleric)


Level 14 (Cleric)


Level 15 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 16 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Paladin)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant I
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant II
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack III
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude I
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude II
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude III
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Heal I
Enhancement: Improved Heal II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Might I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Might II
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality I
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning I
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery II