When do Rangers get Pet system like homonculus?

[WolfSpirit]

I don't even have a ranger currently but let me tell you guys this!
The way you've set up the Pet for Artificer is JUST what an actual lifelong (sort of) Animal companion should be. NOT just another summons that dies 3 mins after summoning. Not just a Moments distraction for Mobs.
A True companion that grows and gains strengths with levels just as we do.
I would LOVE to see fresh life breathed into The ranger class by implementing this for them. It is, after all, what their animal companions SHOULD be like after all.
On a side note, something small but similar for familiars would also work for mages...

[patang01]

The problem I think with artificier is that they keep pushing out releasing all PREs and fixing all problems by introducing more problems, more spells, more classes (races) and then have to rebalance.

I like the pet idea but I hope they also add familiar and animal companion in the future. And please, for the love of gosh - stop releasing new classes and races until all the PREs are released. I don't mind new things, but the stuff on Lam is broken. And adding so much more requiring more and more resources takes away the time they should take to make sure the rest of the classes and races have everything they need.

I want a animal companion and I get the pet is a good test bed for it, but I also want all choices for everything else released.

[Gkar]

Why don't you give them 6 months to see how this works so any potentially broken/underpowered/overpowered/lag inducing/etc problems are solved before they start moving the tech to ranger, wizards, and sorcs who should all have the option of companions.

[Letrii]

Willing to give up one of twf or archery lines for it?

[grodon9999]

Willing to give up one of twf or archery lines for it?

That pet better be friggin off the hook, but my first reactions is hell no.

[dkyle]

Willing to give up one of twf or archery lines for it?

Eh, let the Rangers have their pets. Having both TWF and Archery isn't OP. Rangers need a little love.

But I do agree with letting the system shake out the bugs with Artificers first.

As for Familiars? I'm very disinclined to give Casters more stuff. They do not need the help, at all.

[Letrii]

Eh, let the Rangers have their pets. Having both TWF and Archery isn't OP. Rangers need a little love.

But I do agree with letting the system shake out the bugs with Artificers first.

As for Familiars? I'm very disinclined to give Casters more stuff. They do not need the help, at all.

Familiars wouldn't really boost power level of arcanes. Minor skill bonus, and more a liability to caster than anything else.

[dkyle]

Familiars wouldn't really boost power level of arcanes. Minor skill bonus, and more a liability to caster than anything else.

If the familiars would be that useless, I'd rather the Devs spend their time on useful things for other classes, that could actually use the help.

I'm assuming that Familiars would get a boost in their usefulness, compared to PnP. Otherwise, they'd be pointless in DDO.

[Letrii]

If the familiars would be that useless, I'd rather the Devs spend their time on useful things for other classes, that could actually use the help.

I'm assuming that Familiars would get a boost in their usefulness, compared to PnP. Otherwise, they'd be pointless in DDO.

Maybe if they let arcanes use shield guardians, though that seems kinda what artificers have now.

[mournbladereigns]

I don't even have a ranger currently but let me tell you guys this!
The way you've set up the Pet for Artificer is JUST what an actual lifelong (sort of) Animal companion should be. NOT just another summons that dies 3 mins after summoning. Not just a Moments distraction for Mobs.
A True companion that grows and gains strengths with levels just as we do.
I would LOVE to see fresh life breathed into The ranger class by implementing this for them. It is, after all, what their animal companions SHOULD be like after all.
On a side note, something small but similar for familiars would also work for mages...

I'd like to see some of the Upgrade path options implemented for PM summons. So the skeleton summons would be worth investing in.

Give Archer/Knight/Mage upgrade options. Moar Fort & other options, Blackbone/Frostmarroow upgrade options, and have them cost significantly less than current system. seriously.

[redwolf51]

I'd like to see some of the Upgrade path options implemented for PM summons. So the skeleton summons would be worth investing in.

Give Archer/Knight/Mage upgrade options. Moar Fort & other options, Blackbone/Frostmarroow upgrade options, and have them cost significantly less than current system. seriously.

So boost PM more and leave AMs behind more so?

[Symar-FangofLloth]

Rangers most likely won't get any sort of companions until after Druids are out and have theirs.

[suszterpatt]

Willing to give up one of twf or archery lines for it?

I wouldn't mind seeing this:

Archery feats
TWF feats
Animal companion

Pick 2

[DrNuegebauer]

I wouldn't mind seeing this:

Archery feats
TWF feats
Animal companion

Pick 2

Why would there be a problem in giving rangers all 3?

They're certainly not overpowered in the 2WF department.
The archery thing is pretty cool and all, but certainly not overpowered.

Those 2 alone are nice and all, but the powergamers are gonna pass on the ranger class since there isn't enough 'uberness' in there.

Having an animal companion who is better than a level 1 summon wouldn't be overpowered either - as long as the pet wasn't "uber"

Once you factor in all 3, it might actually bring rangers back as a 'viable' toon for the powergaming crowd?

[Aashrym]

If they get them it would likely be the same update druids come out would be my guess.

I was giving it some thought with the number free feats that rangers get but in the grand scheme of things I have decided there is no point in giving up both combat styles for rangers to have pets or to restrict the usefulness of those pets.

Looking at how I would compare the classes right now I just have a hard time justifying the need to restrict the pet because the skills and spell power just don't have much impact. Ranged isn't exactly over powering and after U11 it might be better but I still don't expect it to do as well as melee or offensive casting.

I don't see a big issue with giving all pets with both combat lines.

[QuantumFX]

SOON™

On a serious note: It would definately make the class more fun.

[wiglin]

Rangers as a whole are not top dps contenders right now since we fight alot more than evil outsiders these days. Unless you run limited content, favored enemies no longer cover everything.

Giving rangers their animal companion should happen. They will not be overpowered with an animal companion. It will round out the class even more, making more appealing overall. Most rangers only pull out a bow when manyshot is off timer, most will not be taking pbs for the increased damage, so the fact that melee rangers get access to some of the bow feats should not limit them getting an animal companion.

With the new mechanics to artificer's, I would expect to see rangers get their animal companions.

[AnYtHiNg23]

I'd like to see some of the Upgrade path options implemented for PM summons. So the skeleton summons would be worth investing in.

Eladrin has stated that they are looking into revamping the PM Undead summon system - most likely making the summons level staggered and not having such great AP reqs to get them. Ofc, it doesn't mean they'll get nice control bars (as much as i'd like to see them) - better than nowt i 'spose ^^

[Grenada]

That pet better be friggin off the hook, but my first reactions is hell no.

This good enough?

[Letrii]

Why would there be a problem in giving rangers all 3?

They're certainly not overpowered in the 2WF department.
The archery thing is pretty cool and all, but certainly not overpowered.

Those 2 alone are nice and all, but the powergamers are gonna pass on the ranger class since there isn't enough 'uberness' in there.

Having an animal companion who is better than a level 1 summon wouldn't be overpowered either - as long as the pet wasn't "uber"

Once you factor in all 3, it might actually bring rangers back as a 'viable' toon for the powergaming crowd?

Iirc, the reason rangers got both lines was because they didn't give them animal companion. Having to choose a combat line would bring the class inline with dnd once they get animal companion.