When do Rangers get Pet system like homonculus?

[grodon9999]

Iirc, the reason rangers got both lines was because they didn't give them animal companion. Having to choose a combat line would bring the class inline with dnd once they get animal companion.

that and a bucket of feces is worth a bucket.

If it involves taking away ANYTHING hell not to the animal companions.

[wiglin]

Iirc, the reason rangers got both lines was because they didn't give them animal companion. Having to choose a combat line would bring the class inline with dnd once they get animal companion.

Rangers get both lines, because archery by itself has always been that bad. (except mabee for that short time during closed beta with a level 10 cap)

Adding companions would round out rangers. It takes more than the ranger free feats to excel at either on of the combat styles, they can have both and an animal companion and be fine. A melee ranger is spending feats on tempest, and an archer is spending feats to get the most out of it, the ones they get for free do not, in and of themselves, allow rangers to excel in the one area.

To say rangers would be overpowered with an animal companion is not true. The hit to tempest was huge, and having alot more enemies to fight at cap then what favored enemy covers is another setback.

[Aashrym]

Iirc, the reason rangers got both lines was because they didn't give them animal companion. Having to choose a combat line would bring the class inline with dnd once they get animal companion.

In line with PnP wouldn't be an improvement in DDO. Not unless there is a much bigger improvement to ranged combat coming.

[Dawnsfire]

Considering a Ranger's companion has traditionally been 4 levels below the Ranger I don't want one. If I want a weak pet I will summon one. The pnp companion was mostly a flavor/rp addition anyways.

[Aashrym]

Considering a Ranger's companion has traditionally been 4 levels below the Ranger I don't want one. If I want a weak pet I will summon one. The pnp companion was mostly a flavor/rp addition anyways.

I thought it was 1/2 the HD of the druid companion. What I would recommend is just give rangers a standard companion similar to druids or at least close. I just can't see it over-powering rangers at this point.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

Eh, let the Rangers have their pets. Having both TWF and Archery isn't OP. Rangers need a little love.

But I do agree with letting the system shake out the bugs with Artificers first.

As for Familiars? I'm very disinclined to give Casters more stuff. They do not need the help, at all.

There seems to be a huge number of players who think that Rgrs are the weakest class in the game....

And ranged combat DPS sucks.

Doesn't seem OP to me to give them their pets.



(plus...if I remember right, Rgr pets are actually half as powerful as Druid pets, and Artificer pets seem to be full powered like Druid pets are suppose to be... meaning Rgr pets will not be as good...., then there is that fact that I have so many Rgr 11 builds,,,that will have sucky pets. And all those Rgr18 builds will not have max power pets either.)
(but maybe my memory is off...not sure)

[Dawnsfire]

I thought it was 1/2 the HD of the druid companion. What I would recommend is just give rangers a standard companion similar to druids or at least close. I just can't see it over-powering rangers at this point.

My mistake.

This ability functions like the druid ability of the same name, except that the ranger’s effective druid level is one-half his ranger level.

They get the ability at 4th level so maybe that was what I was thinking of.

I still don't think an underpowered pet would be of much use to a ranger in this game.

[Aashrym]

My mistake.


They get the ability at 4th level so maybe that was what I was thinking of.

I still don't think an underpowered pet would be of much use to a ranger in this game.

Me either, that's why a regular pet seems fine to me.

[FrozenNova]

No.
Adding pets to rangers would only result in a sizable drop in the developers' incentive to buff rangers where it matters - in the department of numbers flying from enemy heads.
PnP animal companions were just that, anyway - animals. Even a wolf was little match for an equivalent level ogre.

Of course, if they added ranger companions, they ought to add horses; and if they added horses, they ought to add mounted combat; and if they added mounted combat, I'll have a reason to play my paladin again.

[kuro_zero]

My mistake.


They get the ability at 4th level so maybe that was what I was thinking of.

I still don't think an underpowered pet would be of much use to a ranger in this game.

Their caster level is also supposed to be half their ranger level as well but in DDO they get full caster levels (ie rangers could not get full +5 barkskin as that requires 12 caster levels and rangers get 10 at 20).

With all the house rules in DDO, I do not see it as OP to give rangers full HD animal companions. I love my ranger, but certainly feel lacking against non-favored enemies. Hell, my BARD hits nearly as hard as my ranger.