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    Default Make helves less fuggly

    So I posted a an helf build with what I would consider to be a pretty creative name . . . it get edited out because apparently making fun of certain half-elf "features" isn't politically correct.

    So if you don't want us to make fun of the way helves look, why most them look so . . . <thinks of what I can say that won't get me another infraction> . . . um . . . fug it, I can't but you know what I'm talking about.

    Give us an option besides /showhelmet on.

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    Well once we see goggles on our face, problem solved.
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    This is what I think of when I see the half elf facial features on the creation screen.



    Its almost like the image is incomplete.
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    I got to be of the very few that thinks Helf doesn't look that bad :P

    IMHO, they look alot better then humans

    You just gotta feel their flow.... or else those eyes will pierce your soul!

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    I rather liked the description "trans-gender burn victims". It absolutely 100% describes the way they look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grodon9999 View Post
    So I posted a an helf build with what I would consider to be a pretty creative name . . . it get edited out because apparently making fun of certain half-elf "features" isn't politically correct.

    So if you don't want us to make fun of the way helves look, why most them look so . . . <thinks of what I can say that won't get me another infraction> . . . um . . . fug it, I can't but you know what I'm talking about.

    Give us an option besides /showhelmet on.
    Given that you would play a toon that looked like a Teletubby if it gave you a half point more situational DPS,
    why do you care?

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    I'm curious, pm me the name!
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    To make things worse - the head/body proportions are way off, their heads are tiny!

    Come on Turbine - they're going to be a great race in U11 but people are buying them because of the way they look, you're losing $$$ here.

    Also - think of all the Lesser Hearts you're going to sell to the rest of us so we can go back to the character creation screen and change our looks.

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    Dear Turbine, look at the Hourglass Mage books and see how Tanis the half-elf is depicted. please just steal this so we don't want to hurt our half-elves for looking like Lady Gaga and Marilyn Manson's down syndrome kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawnofEntropy View Post
    Dear Turbine, look at the Hourglass Mage books and see how Tanis the half-elf is depicted. please just steal this so we don't want to hurt our half-elves for looking like Lady Gaga and Marilyn Manson's down syndrome kid.
    Ouch. I agree ....but... ouch.
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    /signed

    If this change was made, I would definitely TR2 my Dark Monk into a Helf. But as it is, I just can't envision staring at that face for 4.3 mil XP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DawnofEntropy View Post
    looking like Lady Gaga and Marilyn Manson's down syndrome kid.
    LOL.. Oh, that is just wrong..
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    But Helves need a weakness too.. mirrors that is.
    Feel free to contradict yourself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vissarion View Post
    /signed

    If this change was made, I would definitely TR2 my Dark Monk into a Helf. But as it is, I just can't envision staring at that face for 4.3 mil XP.
    Back of the head.... unless you think the backs of their heads are ugly, too.
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    I think they look fine as they are. In fact, if you do actual tweaking, they look quite good.
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    Back when the 4th edition books were coming out, I had an online discussion about how bad the art was in those books.

    I saved this picture from those books. Perhaps the half-elf inspiration was drawn from this picture.

    I like to think the original piece was called "Transvestite throws a shuriken"

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    My main is a human cleric, everytime I log in on her I see that I picked the wrong nose... and this bugs me. I cannot imagine the irritation seeing a halelf on the login screen would cause me on a main character.

    I realize this is just me and simultaneously just a pet peeve but still.... halfelves look like they're wearing those see-thru plastic masks that distort all facial features at once.

    This is a P2P race, there really is no excuse for their graphics.

    At least some of the people who play them have a sense of humor... I see alot of halfelves with names that are variations or various spellings on Fugly, Hideous, Crueljoke, Uglystick/tree/etc.

    Its sad really because just before the halfblood package came out I was really looking forward to playing a halfelf and jokingly told my hubby I would probably never play a halforc because I couldn't be happy playing an unattractive character.... Today I have a cute halforc bard warchanter that I have alot of fun playing. I keep deleting every halelf alt I've tried because I can't stand their creepiness.

    Halforc can be far and away better looking than halfelf... what does that say?

    It all comes down to player satisfaction or lack thereof.
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    Oh... my beloved gripe of old!
    Half elves!
    The red-headed, misshapen, uncanny-valleyed step-children we all love to hate...



    ...

    I first suggested a few graphical tweaks over the Lamannia forum, when they first introduced Helves, last year.
    I guess this picture warrants being posted again, given helves still give me the creeps when I try building one.
    I'm yet to create one...



    My humble attempt at tweaking helven appearance, using existing models and textures.

    ...

    As an aside, I truly feel graphical dept did a poor job on helves.
    We provided actionable advice.
    I've bought them, and I'm yet to create any of them.
    I've even created a horc barb - and that's the furthest from my fave race/class as it comes...

    I guess it's my pet peeve with DDO; some people lose it when you mention the bugs.
    I freak out when I see what they did to helves...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khurse View Post
    Given that you would play a toon that looked like a Teletubby if it gave you a half point more situational DPS,
    This thread is about Half-elves, not Half-orcs.
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    /not signed.

    I like the no-save fear effect that even affects Pallies, causing them to run in terror at the sight of the Helves' hideously malformed faces.
    Anyone who disagrees is a Terrorist...

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