Epic Drow SR

[earlran]

How many lives of wizard do I need before I can reliably bypass epic drow SR?

Right now my spell pen is +25...and I fail pretty much all the time.

What kind of set up do I need to bypass drow SR so I can solo stinkin BoB, the easiest quest on the planet?

[scottmike0]

How many lives of wizard do I need before I can reliably bypass epic drow SR?

Right now my spell pen is +25...and I fail pretty much all the time.

What kind of set up do I need to bypass drow SR so I can solo stinkin BoB, the easiest quest on the planet?

25 is a little low, try some spell pen feats and some items, usually i try to farm scroll on my caster to make a profit. scroll farming helps in way like trying to get a group. but anywayim sure you can reach higher without taking more tr's of wizard.

[sirgog]

Just Web them, and/or use AoE damage spells.

Unless you have ~33 spell pen, you won't land anything else reliably in that quest.

[biggin]

Even with a 40 SP wizzy in group I still swing away with Improved Shattermantle + Improved Cursepewer. You never quite realize how much you're blue shield/blue hexagoned specced until you run those quests. Sirgog seems to know the numbers and if he says 33+, I would say that may be the benchmark but even then without help from party members may still be on the low side.

Edit: that's for EVoN3. However I can say on my first life wizzy I had serious SP issues in ETides, don't know if it's the same mob SR though as EBoB.

[lethargos]

25 is a little low, try some spell pen feats and some items, usually i try to farm scroll on my caster to make a profit. scroll farming helps in way like trying to get a group. but anywayim sure you can reach higher without taking more tr's of wizard.

How can you get 25 pen if you dont have any items/feats/past lives. A elf wiz could use a s#*@load of APs to get 25 but....?

[sirgog]

Even with a 40 SP wizzy in group I still swing away with Improved Shattermantle + Improved Cursepewer. You never quite realize how much you're blue shield/blue hexagoned specced until you run those quests. Sirgog seems to know the numbers and if he says 33+, I would say that may be the benchmark but even then without help from party members may still be on the low side.

Edit: that's for EVoN3. However I can say on my first life wizzy I had serious SP issues in ETides, don't know if it's the same mob SR though as EBoB.

Not claiming 33 is no-fail, but that's about the breakpoint where Mass Hold and Wail become good spells in eBOB.

eVON3 is insane on the SR checks.

[biggin]

Not claiming 33 is no-fail, but that's about the breakpoint where Mass Hold and Wail become good spells in eBOB.

eVON3 is insane on the SR checks.

Ya, that's what jumped to mind when I saw 'epic drow SR'. I have my EVON3 weapon sets specifically for breaking SR so our PM can still be the killing machine Turbine allows him to be this week, even though I may be the highest DPS in group. Nothing makes you feel epic like buying trash one handers off the AH to complete epic raids!

[danlan]

Aiming to break Drow SR is foolish.
30 should be good.

And you can also use prismatic spray/rays with a +2 evocation item (like epic shaman's beads) on drows,these spells (dc 40) work really well on drows in sentinels.

[Vellrad]

If you build character for it...
20 level
+6 wiz past lifes
+3 FvS past lifes
+3 item
+4 feats
+3 wizard spell pen (12AP I think)
+4 elven arcanum (10AP I think, not sure)
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43 total

Its not 100% chance, most drows got SR 46-47, but some gote more, and defeating 1 kind of mob is not best way to use 22AP (unles you built for scroll farming in place full of drows, but there are better spells I think)

Having all past life feats alone, without using any spell pen feats/APs is +32, which is ~30% for most trash drows, and pretty much (almost) auto win on other mobs. Then, spending 1 feat and 2AP (if you're not elf at this life) gives you +35, wich is not bad, but not very good vs drow.

Edit: I'm weak at math, I had to recalculate

[AtomicMew]

If you build character for it...
20 level
+6 wiz past lifes
+3 FvS past lifes
+3 item
+4 feats
+3 wizard spell pen (12AP I think)
+4 elven arcanum (10AP I think, not sure)
_______________________________________
43 total

Its not 100% chance, most drows got SR 46-47, but some gote more, and defeating 1 kind of mob is not best way to use 22AP (unles you built for scroll farming in place full of drows, but there are better spells I think)

Having all past life feats alone, without using any spell pen feats/APs is +32, which is ~30% for most trash drows, and pretty much (almost) auto win on other mobs. Then, spending 1 feat and 2AP (if you're not elf at this life) gives you +35, wich is not bad, but not very good vs drow.

Edit: I'm weak at math, I had to recalculate

If I don't plan to build for epic drow SR, what is a good spell pen number for no-fail on all other mobs?

[dingal]

How many lives of wizard do I need before I can reliably bypass epic drow SR?

Right now my spell pen is +25...and I fail pretty much all the time.

What kind of set up do I need to bypass drow SR so I can solo stinkin BoB, the easiest quest on the planet?

The max you can get first life is 30 I think which will get you a successful spell pen on a 16.

You would need 3 wiz lives, 3 sorc and 3 fvs I think to max out and you'd still fail on a 6-7 I think.

Drow SR is just way out of line imo.

[dingal]

If I don't plan to build for epic drow SR, what is a good spell pen number for no-fail on all other mobs?

33 would be no fail on abishai or orange devils in epic chrono. Something around 33-34 for guardians in elite hound (who cares?).

[Viisari]

If I don't plan to build for epic drow SR, what is a good spell pen number for no-fail on all other mobs?

Around 32-34 I think. Most people shoot for 28-30 I think since it's not too hard to get and works almost always on everything but drow.

[dingal]

Not claiming 33 is no-fail, but that's about the breakpoint where Mass Hold and Wail become good spells in eBOB.

eVON3 is insane on the SR checks.

I've tested ebob with my death aura ticking and with 29 I need to roll a 17. Even 33 isn't going to be very reliable in there.

[Tid12]

Just Web them, and/or use AoE damage spells.

Unless you have ~33 spell pen, you won't land anything else reliably in that quest.

This.

If u check Ayspam build, he has 3x PL of each caster class and a SP of 31 and, even if thats really much, its not realiable to bypass the epic drows' SR (plus, its A LOT of work, i wouldnt grind so much just for that).

Web + Solid fog for the -5 Ref saves = win

[Phidius]

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Epic Mob Drow SR is just way out of line imo.

Fixed that for you...

I really expected someone to post in here that the Drow SR is WAI - Drow are supposed to be immune to magic! I wouldn't mind having that kind of immunity on my drow.

[Schmoe]

The max you can get first life is 30 I think which will get you a successful spell pen on a 16.

You would need 3 wiz lives, 3 sorc and 3 fvs I think to max out and you'd still fail on a 6-7 I think.

Drow SR is just way out of line imo.

Nah. Every rock needs its paper.