Thanks for killing PvP? (Pls sign)

[Fundamental]

Who gives a rat's you know what about pvp? A very small percentage of players actually actually activly participate in it anyway. My only irritation is that they put time into pvp that could have went elsewhere. A total waste of my monthly subscribtion dollars if you ask me.

They have putten time in pvp? As far as I know, they never have put any time in pvp at all, so don't worry all that nice good subscription money you pay every month is going right into the hands of a big warner brother exec and his car collection. As for the small percentage, perhaps so but it's still thousands upon thousands of very active players, usually with a lot of toons.
We don't need anything changed, we just ask for maybe some bigger area to pvp in, maybe some extra dimension, which if they did, it would help the game immensely not only by popularity but by diversity aswell. The fact Turbine does not care about pvp is simply cause they aren't caring about the game as a whole but more about, ah yes, your subscription money, store items to milk money from. So this is pretty much linked to the whole game experience.

[Fundamental]

I would be more then pleased to pay for a worthwhile pvp update. The plain fact with pvp is a lot more people spend a lot more time pvping then people spend in some of the adventure packs. I don't know if its different on other servers, but on Orien its pretty much impossible to throw together at level pugs for quite a few packs, like 3bc, sorrowdusk, and a few others. They're little more then **** you zerg through just to get your favor from them. Meanwhile I can consitently find people to pvp with at all level ranges and the brawling pit is almost never empty.

Judging by the standards of some of the anti-pvp people that like to troll this forum, the proper response to such worthless packs should be to remove them, since all they do is add to server strain and increase lag. Since just a tiny portion of the population spends any length of time in those zones they are just a worthless asset to ddo and should be stuffed in a deep, dark corner and never receive any love.

The best part is there aren't even people on here that want to ram pvp down anyone elses throat. I don't care if you hate pvp and don't want to do it, because I'm not asking for an option that lets me join your quest instance and try to kill you. With a little love pvp would add a lot more replayability to the game then quite a few of the current pay to play packs add, and much like those packs...if you don't like them don't play them.

Well spoken words.

[Fundamental]

Personally I think the tone of comments in the pvp forums reflect the general underlying mood in the pvp tavern pits.

Not very nice.

I play with my young son who pvp's some times. I've sat in the lounge listening to him as he plays. While he is in a group and questing (read pve) he is calm and having fun and not abusing anyone. Working as a group toward a common goal.
As soon as he steps into the pvp pits he starts to get agro, even if winning, and the name calling starts and he turns into an angry little ****. Pretty much the same as what happens in these forums.

I don't pvp and have no desire to.

Dosnt mean you shouldn't be able to. I just won't. Ever period. Makes people angry aholes.

My opion and I'm entitled to it. Flame me and you prove my point. Your an angry ahole.

Play nice together people. In game an in forum.

It's funny you actually think that Pvp in a virtual game, would negatively influence people's minds and make them ......., it's not Pvp, it's human nature and stupidity, turn on your tv set. lol

[MartinusWyllt]

Well spoken words.

If the words you're supporting included /who data collected over a period of time of the distribution of the player population in "adventure packs" v. PvP areas and showed, statistically, that "most players" are in PvP then those might have had been well written words.

The argument I've made before is that PvP in DDO will *never* be nearly as good as PvP in MMOs that have a PvP-focus so it *seems to me* like throwing good money after bad. I mean, c'mon, other games have castles you can conquer or defend and siege engines, working stealth, prevent harassment by limiting communication. Turbine does listen to the playerbase about things, hence features like player housing are coming down the pipe. Apparently a significant proportion of the players are not actually clamoring for PvP upgrades.

The other arguments about balancing PvP v. PvE and allocation of developer resources and the like aren't really things we can accurately discuss at all. We can talk about what we see as the focus of DDO as players and it seems that the focus of DDO is PvE and no one was tricked into thinking it was otherwise when the downloaded the client, at least not by Turbine.

[Aliss7]

Turbine does listen to the playerbase about things, hence features like player housing are coming down the pipe.

whoa, stop the presses... where is the link/info that says player housing is coming?

[MartinusWyllt]

whoa, stop the presses... where is the link/info that says player housing is coming?

Um..I might have said too much.

Nothing to see here!

[porq]

They killed pvp? When was it alive to begin with?

I was under the impression the 10x hp thing was a step towards making pvp more fun.
Am I wrong?

It meant that casters can't one-shot most players, and people that accidentally fall into the pit don't get ripped apart by those just itching to tear into some meat.

[LOOON375]

PvP is alive and well. It's called "Call of Duty Modern Warfare".

If find it amazing, that this game isn't even designed around or for PvP, but some who happen to PvP want the whole game changed for the PvP arena.

[McFlay]

PvP is alive and well. It's called "Call of Duty Modern Warfare".

If find it amazing, that this game isn't even designed around or for PvP, but some who happen to PvP want the whole game changed for the PvP arena.

There is already a pvp environment setting in the game, they could easily do some slight modifications to that to make pvp a better without touching the pvm portions of the game. For example, in pvp areas you can't cast some aoe spells like fw and bb, and it doesn't effect pvm at all now does it? Another would be turbines failed idea of 10xhp in pvp areas, that didn't have any impact at all on pvm.

I must have missed all the threads on here where people want the entire game overhauled to be a massive pk fest, they got drowned out by all the more reasonable threads asking for a few moderate improvements to pvp while leaving it seperate from existing pvm content, but I wouldn't expect anyone who posts such ignorant, unsupported statements to realize that.

[Valakai]

Yes please kill the pvp in this game. /kthxbye.

Of all the MMOs out there this game has the worst pvp. If you want to pvp there are some really good games out there for it. This one has bar brawls that are pointless and boring.

There is no real pvp in DDO.

[BlackyLigar]

/not signed

Without this PvP is pretty much who's the sorc or FvS and who gets the shot off first. Not only that its also 4 - 8 level 20's sitting inside the pit one shotting lower level toons as soon as they hop in.

i disagree completely, i've had 5 people say the same thing(echo chamber rhetoric nonsense), told them it'll be way more one sided than that, then gone on to shut them out 50-9 or something similar.


10-5 did better than most but if i was using fear and blind, i was just toying with them


this player learned a lot from this match dispite his claims about hax


this was just a fun match, but it was fun


now heres the real image i want to show you, this is on kyber. myddo the two toons, skill above all else plays the biggest roll in pvp as it is and thats the true beauty of it. all my gear here, garbage, just like he said. i killed his sorc, onlyone in the pit that did, he then gets his somewhat geared out ranger to outclass my garbage ranger. btw, where he complains about spawning was when i would kill him to get to his flag and then kill him leaving with his flag. again, all my gear, garbage.


lil more one sided than who gets their slayer and who gets their ku kan do, wasn't it lui. yes i used fear and blind score would b higher but he logged out


the quintesential total shut out of an over geared and yet unskilled player.

I honestly think PvP Brawlpits should be trashed all together, they create lag and alot of it with all the constant spells going off, I'd hate to see someone in a quest that shares the same /loc as a tavern.

right so if people were not actualy playing the game then there wouldn't be any lag..... see the fail?

but yer right, brawl pits are not a realistic enough setting. harbor pvp instance 3, market pvp instance 3, house denieth pvp instance 12, etc.

money spent making a quest you run once and say, "meh trash loot" and never touched again, VAST with questionable chance of returns.

money spent setting pvp boundries on existing maps for separate open and public instances, nil with 100% certainty of adding engaging content.

[Chai]

What those screenies prove the most is the mentality of PVP many "PVP haters" have been harping on for a long time now exists and is alive and well - which is exactly what the nonsupporters do not want to flock to this game in droves. Every time you roflpwned someone they sent you tells with insults, claims of cheap tactics, and accusations of "hax" LOL.

The one thing WOW got right in PVP is making it so the two sides cant talk to eachother + alot of PVP matches involved alot of people from other servers.

[MartinusWyllt]

The one thing WOW got right in PVP is making it so the two sides cant talk to eachother + alot of PVP matches involved alot of people from other servers.

DAoC got that same thing right, too. They have/had a PvP anywhere server, but that never had the population the frontier-restricted PvP servers got.

[BlackyLigar]

What those screenies prove the most is the mentality of PVP many "PVP haters" have been harping on for a long time now exists and is alive and well - which is exactly what the nonsupporters do not want to flock to this game in droves. Every time you roflpwned someone they sent you tells with insults, claims of cheap tactics, and accusations of "hax" LOL.

The one thing WOW got right in PVP is making it so the two sides cant talk to eachother + alot of PVP matches involved alot of people from other servers.

firstly, that's pvp. that's how pvp is. "they sent you tells with insults, claims of cheap tactics, and accusations of "hax" LOL" ye.... that's what u do good fun.

non supporters flock to this game? not sure what game yer playing because it's quite clear from every single thread on this forum section that pvp is alive and well on ddo. most of it takes place on the forums in this subsection no less.

my suggestions could not in anyway impact on any of the people who post here claiming to not want to pvp, and yet, yer all still here. the only fathomable reason is that they enjoy structural violence pvp.

"haters", go try some real pvp, you'll like it, you know you'll like it, i know you like it, we all know you like it, go and like it

if you really seriously believe you wont like it and are dead set on joining some ficticous group that claims to not like it while doing it every day in this forum subsection, then don't to it. too easy.

truely, my suggestions, nil on the budget with 100% chance of payoff.

[Aurora1979]

/Signed

Yea I agree, thank you for killing PvP.

I never realised it was alive but if that little *&^%*$ starts twitching feel free to stick another one in its skull for me.

[BlackyLigar]

/Signed

Yea I agree, thank you for killing PvP.

I never realised it was alive but if that little *&^%*$ starts twitching feel free to stick another one in its skull for me.

see? very next post, even.

[McFlay]

What those screenies prove the most is the mentality of PVP many "PVP haters" have been harping on for a long time now exists and is alive and well - which is exactly what the nonsupporters do not want to flock to this game in droves. Every time you roflpwned someone they sent you tells with insults, claims of cheap tactics, and accusations of "hax" LOL.

This has nothing to do with pvp, and everything to do with stupid people. Its really not hard to check out someones build on myddo, and scroll back through your combat log to figure out whats going on. Not to mention most people will give you pointers if you ask and aren't being a jerk about losing.

Stupid people are stupid people if they are raging like idiots in pvp or pvm. Every hear one of those idiots that freak out about how much a healer sucks in your group because they aren't healing, even though the guy zergs out of range of teh healer and has no way of self healing? Nobody is on here arguing we should get rid of clerics because they are tired of hearing stupid people yell at clerics who let them die, so why pose the same argument for pvp?

[BlackyLigar]

why indeed

[BitkaCK2]

If you really want to kill PvP and help alleviate lag assign all brawl pits to /loc i2049 and exempt all quest/raid instances from aforementioned /loc.

Just sayin', 2birds 1 stone,
bitkaCK2

[McFlay]

If you really want to kill PvP and help alleviate lag assign all brawl pits to /loc i2049 and exempt all quest/raid instances from aforementioned /loc.

Just sayin', 2birds 1 stone,
bitkaCK2

Haha I really don't get the totally anti pvp people. Such weak arguments. You claim nobody pvp's on here anyhow, then blame the lag on pvp. How do empty brawl pits and non-existant pvp instances cause such insane lag if nobody is pvping in them anyhow?