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    Default Don't Show Me Other's Yellow Ki Bar!

    Party health/mana/ki bars display is currently screwed up. It's not only "pushing" my mana and ki bar to other players bars (some of who don't have blue/yellow of their own anyway).

    But it all so crazy small! One easy solution is to just not show other character's yellow ki bars. As long as I can see my own ki bar, I'm ok. I'm pretty much never in the situation where I care about someone else's ki bar. Other people's health bars and blue sp bars I care about (esp if I'm healing and/or leading a raid).
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    I saw the title of this thread, and my first thought was...

    'Huh... I wonder if that guy has ki-ness envy'...

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    I would also like to NOT see other people's KI bars, mostly because I find it upsetting to see a "FULL" KI bar and know that the monk isn't using his/her attacks....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xionanx View Post
    I would also like to NOT see other people's KI bars, mostly because I find it upsetting to see a "FULL" KI bar and know that the monk isn't using his/her attacks....
    Honestly, you could see this before. The same argument could be made for removing the casters' blue bar... IE: "I would like to NOT see other people's SP bars, mostly because I find it upsetting to see a "FULL" SP bar and know that the (Cleric/FvS/Sorc/Wiz) isn't using his/her spells"

    The counter argument here is that, without being able to see some one else's (insert color here) bar, the rest of the party cannot know what that (insert class/build with more than one bar) is going to be capable of.

    This is not meant to provoke your envy/ire, but to help the group know the status of their party's members.

    Example: If I'm on my ranger, and I see the cleric getting low on SP, I'm going to start off-healing between encounters, during as imminent threat allows, as well as taking responsibility for healing myself as much as I can, to help mitigate the drain on that Cleric's resources, and/or toss them an SP pot or ten if I have them.

    The difference is, a monk's Ki is (virtually) limitless, so long as they're attacking or have meditations left. This means that, perhaps that Monk with the full ki bar is a Light Monk who is holding his (short) buffs and beneficial abilities for critical moments when they're most needed, rather than burning them on mobs. It's a different (not better or worse) tactic.


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    Ehh... I've been a Monk 2x in my TR career, to me a monk with a full Ki bar is a monk wasting potential. You get Ki so easily and all your buffs are 60 seconds or less (unless they increased the duration at some point, I've been away). so there is no reason why you shouldn't be making "Some" attempt to keep some of those buffs up. Not to mention the extra damage you do from using your Ki strikes.

    I cant think of any valid reason to keep a full ki bar through 90% of a quest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xionanx View Post
    Ehh... I've been a Monk 2x in my TR career, to me a monk with a full Ki bar is a monk wasting potential. You get Ki so easily and all your buffs are 60 seconds or less (unless they increased the duration at some point, I've been away). so there is no reason why you shouldn't be making "Some" attempt to keep some of those buffs up. Not to mention the extra damage you do from using your Ki strikes.

    I cant think of any valid reason to keep a full ki bar through 90% of a quest.
    Rising Phoenix? Saves the cleric some critical sp, and is pretty Ki cheap.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KreepyKritter View Post
    Rising Phoenix? Saves the cleric some critical sp, and is pretty Ki cheap.
    Rez clicky(s), UMD Rez Scroll's.. rising pheonix is nice, but if the party is dieing often enough that the cleric is *****ing about using rez scrolls and your storing "ALL" of your ki just to use it... somethings wrong.

    I have to say, I made 3 non TR monks and I've TR'd 2x as a monk, and in all that time I maybe used rising pheonix 5x's, and it wasn't from lack of Ki.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xionanx View Post
    Ehh... I've been a Monk 2x in my TR career, to me a monk with a full Ki bar is a monk wasting potential. You get Ki so easily and all your buffs are 60 seconds or less (unless they increased the duration at some point, I've been away). so there is no reason why you shouldn't be making "Some" attempt to keep some of those buffs up. Not to mention the extra damage you do from using your Ki strikes.

    I cant think of any valid reason to keep a full ki bar through 90% of a quest.
    Power Surge on a Ftr12/Mnk8 (or variants thereof).

    You get so much Ki, you won't be able to spend it all.
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    mostly because I find it upsetting to see a "FULL" KI bar and know that the monk isn't using his/her attacks....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xionanx View Post
    I cant think of any valid reason to keep a full ki bar through 90% of a quest.
    Out of the party there are only two of you who can Rez?

    Raid... no because there are most likely multiple healers and those who can UMD or have a clicky. Issue is that isn't the whole game. There are times when I've partied with a PuG and believe it or not the Rogue/Bard didn't have Rez or heal scrolls. I know, it's hard for some to believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keybreaker View Post
    I'm pretty much never in the situation where I care about someone else's ki bar.
    Totally agree. The Turbine UI doesn't need any more sprawl or useless information displayed than it already has.
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    In case anyone in here wonders why the bars are spread out, it is for artificer pets:
    http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...&postcount=140

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