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    Default Black Dragon Bolt



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    well that definitely looks interesting...

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    More dots
    more dots
    Now stop dots

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    so my shiny new earth savant can have melfs spell, melfs sla, acid rain, acid fog, niacs, eldars, and this new spell all stacked at the same time? and then run away giggling like a school girl?

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    Shouldn't it be 25d3, instead of 3d25 in the D&D dice description ?

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    Ooh, this makes me wonder if this will be what is on epic black dragon armor when epic GH is finally released.
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    Sorry for not including this in our Lammania Release Notes. Added!


    Black Dragon Bolt
    Cost: 15 SP
    Target: Foe, Directional, Breakable
    Components: Focus, Somatic, Verbal
    Level: 8 Wiz/Sor
    Range: 60
    Metamagics: Maximize, Empower
    School: Conjuration (currently incorrectly listed as Evocation on Lammania)
    Effect: Deals 1 to 3 acid damage per caster level (up to a max of 25 to 75 at caster level 25) every 2 seconds for 6 seconds to an enemy with a powerful bolt of corrosive acid. This spell has double range.
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    Greater Melf

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    Now that's a spell I like. That's one hell of an addition to acid imo.

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    no save?
    good at business

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Zephyr- View Post
    Shouldn't it be 25d3, instead of 3d25 in the D&D dice description ?
    Nice, finally a use for my 25-sided die! (Yes is the answer.)
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    Oooh. Some Earth Savant love - I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    Nice, finally a use for my 25-sided die! (Yes is the answer.)
    I dunno, my 25 sided sees as much action as my 3 sided...

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    Quote Originally Posted by red_cardinal View Post
    Greater Melf
    Totally
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    Default ... at caster level 25

    "...at caster level 25"

    Caster level 25??

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    Nice spell. It's a good start. We still need more options, though. Elemental Orbs would be nice.

    I'd really like to see more illusion spells, up to and including Weird.

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    Time to TR my air savant to an earth savant...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sho-gun View Post
    "...at caster level 25"

    Caster level 25??
    Well, an Acid savant would cast it at CL 26. They'd also have a max of 28 (30 with the ToD set) and there are ways to bump it up with items. Abishai set comes to mind.

    Keep in mind that Polar Ray also shows a cap of CL25

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    Thanks for the clarification.

    For some reason I read that as "level cap increase"

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    So an 8th level acid spell that does 100-300 damage over it's 6 seconds span per cast (at caster level 25) plus metas and enhancements etc.

    Rate vs Polar ray:

    8th level cold spell that does 50-150 damage (all at once) per cast (at caster level 25) plust metas and enhancements.

    Instant:
    Polar Ray: 50-150 (avg 100)
    Black Dragon Bolt: 25-75 (avg 50)

    at 2 seconds:
    Polar Ray: 0
    Black Dragon Bolt: 50-150 (avg 100)

    at 4 seconds:
    Polar Ray: 0
    Black Dragon Bolt: 75-225 (avg 150)

    at 6 seconds:
    Polar Ray: 0
    Black Dragon Bolt: 100-300 (avg 200)

    So it looks like it will do double polar ray's damage per sp, and double the dps of polar ray, since the cooldown on polar ray is 6 seconds.

    Is this spell intended to be the absolute best single target damage spell in the game?

    It rivals triple stacked niacs/eladars for pure dps without the restriction of having to stack it up to that.

    base 33.3-50 dps on BDB vs 31.5-39 base dps on Niacs/eladars 3 stack

    While those numbers may not look huge yet, that's BASE dps. Metas/enhancements magnify it a great deal.

    full elemental spec enhancements, full metas, sorc capstone multiply all those numbers by approximately 5 times

    --edit: removed erroneous calcs from flawed spreadsheet. see calcs posted later on page 2 of this thread for BDB dps calcs--


    That looks way too overpowered.

    It gets even sicker when you factor in savant curses.
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