Guild Level vs. Guild Size

[DarkTemplar]

Apologies if this has been posted already.

I do not comment on the forum often, but many of you on Sarlona will know me as "Monkie". Recently I was contacted by a member of a "capped" guild. I did not know this player personally, furthermore their guild has never invited me on their "capped" ship for a beer. The player informed me that by responding to his tell, I was now "/squelched" because I was a member of a guild that he did not like.

After I was apparently "squleched", I was informed that I should talk to my guild about our number of members. Unfortunately I had problems hearing him over the sound of how awesome my guild is, this is a constant problem. After I turned down my Aussie rock classics and refilled my drink he informed me that six members was the magic number to "cap" a guild.

My response to this was "how can six members be a magic number when it only fills half of a raid party". After all, you can have six incredible players who inadvertenly group with six players who eat paste and use Thernal blades on Harry (I am not discriminating against people who eat paste, Im just saying). So I would like to ask my fellow gamers on Sarlona, do you think having less than twelve (12) players in a capped guild a logical decision? I would like to see the forums opinion on "what is the magic number of guildies in a guild that plans to reach level 100?".

[Jiirix]

I am not from Sarlona but I would like to know: Perfect Guild size for grinding favor in a most boring way until you reached level 100? (Remembers me of of the Southpark WOW episode when they slay millions of boars to gain levels: "And what do we do now? - Now we can start playing the game") Or perfect guild size to reach level 100 by playing DDO and having fun with the players one likes to run with?

Greetings Jiirix

[Ashbinder]

The ideal size of a guild for renown needed per player to achieve level 100 is between 7 to 16 members.

Guild 	Renown 	Renown Decay 	Modified Daily Renown 
Size	Bonus	(Level 100)	Decay	Per Account
1	1.5	33000		13200	13200
2	1.8	36000		12857	6428
3	2.1	39000		12580	4193
4	2.4	42000		12352	3088
5	2.7	45000		12162	2432
6	3	48000		12000	2000
7	2.85	51000		13246	1892
8	2.7	54000		14594	1824
9	2.55	57000		16056	1784
10	2.4	60000		17647	1764
11	2.25	63000		19384	1762
12	2.1	66000		21290	1774
13	1.95	69000		23389	1799
14	1.8	72000		25714	1836
15	1.65	75000		28301	1886
16	1.5	78000		31200	1950
17	1.37	81000		34177	2010
18	1.255	84000		37250	2069
19	1.152	87000		40427	2127
20	1.059	90000		43710	2185
21	0.975	93000		47088	2242
22	0.898	96000		50579	2299
23	0.829	99000		54127	2353
24	0.765	102000		57790	2407
25	0.706	105000		61547	2461
26	0.652	108000		65375	2514
27	0.601	111000		69331	2567
28	0.555	114000		73311	2618
29	0.511	117000		77432	2670
30	0.471	120000		81577	2719
31	0.433	123000		85833	2768
32	0.397	126000		90193	2818
33	0.364	129000		94574	2865
34	0.332	132000		99099	2914
35	0.303	135000		103607	2960
36	0.275	138000		108235	3006
37	0.248	141000		112980	3053
38	0.223	144000		117743	3098
39	0.199	147000		122602	3143
40	0.176	150000		127551	3188
41	0.155	153000		132467	3230
42	0.134	156000		137566	3275
43	0.115	159000		142600	3316
44	0.096	162000		147810	3359
45	0.078	165000		153061	3401
46	0.061	168000		158341	3442
47	0.045	171000		163636	3481
48	0.029	174000		169096	3522
49	0.014	177000		174556	3562
50	0	180000		180000	3600

Assuming each member earns equal amounts of renown on average, a 7-16 man guild needs less than 2K per day per person before modifiers to beat the decay. Others need more.

Even though a 6 man guild receives 3x the renown bonus, the renown decay offsets this. When you modify the renown decay by the size bonus, then divide the renown decay by the guild size, you can see that more people make farming renown easier.

[redmexz]

Apologies if this has been posted already.

I do not comment on the forum often, but many of you on Sarlona will know me as "Monkie". Recently I was contacted by a member of a "capped" guild. I did not know this player personally, furthermore their guild has never invited me on their "capped" ship for a beer. The player informed me that by responding to his tell, I was now "/squelched" because I was a member of a guild that he did not like.

After I was apparently "squleched", I was informed that I should talk to my guild about our number of members. Unfortunately I had problems hearing him over the sound of how awesome my guild is, this is a constant problem. After I turned down my Aussie rock classics and refilled my drink he informed me that six members was the magic number to "cap" a guild.

My response to this was "how can six members be a magic number when it only fills half of a raid party". After all, you can have six incredible players who inadvertenly group with six players who eat paste and use Thernal blades on Harry (I am not discriminating against people who eat paste, Im just saying). So I would like to ask my fellow gamers on Sarlona, do you think having less than twelve (12) players in a capped guild a logical decision? I would like to see the forums opinion on "what is the magic number of guildies in a guild that plans to reach level 100?".

Well first off I like paste, Im just saying. I know who or should I say what guild you are talking about, name ....."They know who they are." In my outside opinion there is NO magic number in reaching guild lv100. Why because one day we all will be guild lv 100. I think we talked about this the other day people will come on the sever start ,all this stuff about how good they are babababa what ever get some years under your belt ,and run some quests two man or do what I do pike with the Monkie Man so i can Tr fast. With all BS stuff aside I would rather be in a good guild or run with good guilds that don't have a Lv100 ship , but get the quest done fast ,and fun. So they can have their 100th lv ship. With those words said Rojolady steps back into DDO land , you know I got to TR man!!!!
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 5 wow you came out your shell Monkie to the Man , Always send my Respects to you and your guild ,
The one and Only "Rojolady" Loved by few hated by most!!!!! My Guild "BlackSoul's"

[syphiroth]

theres only one capped guild in sarlona and being a member of it i know for a fact thats a lie.

can you send a screenshot?

[redmexz]

theres only one capped guild in sarlona and being a member of it i know for a fact thats a lie.

can you send a screenshot?

lost you ??

[Cyr]

There is no magic number.

The key to hitting 100 easy is having bugged end rewards.

[DarkTemplar]

theres only one capped guild in sarlona and being a member of it i know for a fact thats a lie.

can you send a screenshot?

What is a lie? And what do you want for a screen shot? The lack of punctuation makes your comment confusing.

[IWZincedge]

That way madness lies. We don't like madness here.

Please refrain from supplying unnecessary back stories that can serve to identify and consequently call out other players for their behavior in the game when phrasing questions in the public forums.