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    Quote Originally Posted by Vellrad View Post
    Too late, extend is nerfed, and don't applies to most of spells, so whatever.
    Haters gotta hate.

    Seriously though, this is great news! Another great usage (and one I'd strongly urge most PM's to consider) is Heighten on Death Aura. While Death Aura is nice damage and heighten reduces the saves against it the primary use for it is keeping the PM alive. I rarely heighten it due to the SP cost but I hated having to remember to flip heighten back on again.

    This is a huge change for the game's UI and will add quite a bit to the strategic play of casters.

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    Yay, no more annoyingly overcosted Heightened Heal spells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkrok View Post
    Haters gotta hate.

    Seriously though, this is great news! Another great usage (and one I'd strongly urge most PM's to consider) is Heighten on Death Aura. While Death Aura is nice damage and heighten reduces the saves against it the primary use for it is keeping the PM alive. I rarely heighten it due to the SP cost but I hated having to remember to flip heighten back on again.

    This is a huge change for the game's UI and will add quite a bit to the strategic play of casters.
    Oh, I forgotten about this, so it migth be helpfull.
    Yes, I'm a hater, and I just still can't live with 30 seconds webs, 100 seconds disco and other CC to short to bother, and I still feel that I got wasted feat in my build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vellrad View Post
    Oh, I forgotten about this, so it migth be helpfull.
    Yes, I'm a hater, and I just still can't live with 30 seconds webs, 100 seconds disco and other CC to short to bother, and I still feel that I got wasted feat in my build.
    I'd drop the feat if you feel that way. I know I dropped it on my kids' sorcs. Kept it on my pale master wizard but it's almost exclusively there for Death Aura - if I played an Archmage I wouldn't carry it at all. Melee's will have to deal with the 2 minute hastes from time to time.

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    Was there ever such a big update in the past, with so much more game play? I've only been around just over a year but this appears to be a huge update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2x4 View Post
    Was there ever such a big update in the past, with so much more game play? I've only been around just over a year but this appears to be a huge update.
    On paper it looks to be one of the best ive ever seen, but time will tell.

    Id still like to see some time put into old bugs, outdated content, bad quests, bad epic setups (sands). But as far as the new stuff goes it all looks pretty solid to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2x4 View Post
    Was there ever such a big update in the past, with so much more game play? I've only been around just over a year but this appears to be a huge update.
    for content i think gianthold and the vale have been the best so far
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    I hope they keep the current general toggle as well; like for, say, quicken. You don't always want to have quicken toggled for some spells, but when you have to cast a lot of spells RIGHT NOW, you don't want to be fumbling around in a right-click menu for each spell. Perhaps have a 'Never Enable' option as well, if you generally keep something on but have a few spells you don't want it to be on ever (not that I can think of any examples, but it could happen).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperAlexEU View Post
    for content i think gianthold and the vale have been the best so far
    Ya i suposse thats me still viewing those as "mods", i guess its all the same

    Vale will always stand as the big dog on campus until something its size comes out again. Depending on how these raids are it -could- rival it, a few more quests in the cannith area prolly wouldnt have hurt...but ya...we will see
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    Time to replace one of my first level spells with Hypno. Crushing Despair is going to be even better than before. Spell combos are going to be much more palatable now that we don't have to spend nearly 50sp to Heighten the debuff itself.

    Divines can finally use Holy Smite and Soundburst for CC without having to pay tons of extra sp to Maximize them.

    That's just the tip of the iceberg. This is an excellent change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arel View Post
    I hope they keep the current general toggle as well; like for, say, quicken. You don't always want to have quicken toggled for some spells, but when you have to cast a lot of spells RIGHT NOW, you don't want to be fumbling around in a right-click menu for each spell. Perhaps have a 'Never Enable' option as well, if you generally keep something on but have a few spells you don't want it to be on ever (not that I can think of any examples, but it could happen).
    Im hoping they did it smart and put just two simple options...

    Always -
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    And then let your base icons do all the real work.
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    For the curious, here's what it looks like:



    The on/off are hard overrides. If you have it set to "on", the metamagic is applied even if you have that metamagic off. Likewise, if you have it set to "off", the metamagic is not applied, even when it is on.

    The same spell can be dragged to multiple hotbar slots to support different metamagic toggles.

    That means you can have, for example, Quickened Reconstruct at all times, buff spells never Quickened, and still toggle Quicken on/off for general use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GotSomeQuestions View Post
    For the curious, here's what it looks like:



    The on/off are hard overrides. If you have it set to "on", the metamagic is applied even if you have that metamagic off. Likewise, if you have it set to "off", the metamagic is not applied, even when it is on.

    The same spell can be dragged to multiple hotbar slots to support different metamagic toggles.

    That means you can have, for example, Quickened Reconstruct at all times, buff spells never Quickened, and still toggle Quicken on/off for general use.
    Awsome +1

    This is exactly how i hoped it would be done.
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    No on and off for quicken when I just want to toss some hjealz between fights, or before I toss buffs out. Empower healing on for the cures, but not for heal and mass heal. Max the **** out of divine punishment. Solo healing raids becomes a bit easier from a spell point use standpoint.

    OTOH, my already junked up screen space just earned 2 more hotbars.

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    best thing ever happened with metas

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    Worthy of praise, now you no longer have to turn the metas on and off repeteadly to benefit from the reduced costs from u9.
    Is also handy in so many quests, specially for quicken and heighten.

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    Should be interesting to see the implications for SLAs under this new system.

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    ummm.. Light Crossbows reloads faster than heavy....?

    Does this i'll never use Heavy? XD I wanna reload as fast as possible :P

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