to-hit on epics

[Skavenaps]

will +42 to hit unbuffed good for epics?

im planing my ac tank (yeah yeah useless bla bla) and im worried if that will be good.

[xxScoobyDooxx]

no - aim for over 50.

[Shade]

Yea you got a long ways to go..

You might hit the really weak trash. But most of the tough stuff has 60-75AC.

[Skavenaps]

Yea you got a long ways to go..

You might hit the really weak trash. But most of the tough stuff has 60-75AC.

so 50 unbuffed? with no GH, recitation etc?

oka will work on that.

[Moltier]

Yea you got a long ways to go..

You might hit the really weak trash. But most of the tough stuff has 60-75AC.

75AC??? I tought 68 is the max currently (Mali in big top).

[Rusty_Can]

will +42 to hit unbuffed good for epics?

im planing my ac tank (yeah yeah useless bla bla) and im worried if that will be good.

As others have stated, it looks low-ish.

Class and to-hit breakdowns would help to provide better advice.

[Shade]

75AC??? I tought 68 is the max currently (Mali in big top).

nah shes way lower then the gnoll packmaster in wiz king, hes about 75. Nothing post Desert has near it's ACs.

[Skavenaps]

BaB +20
STR +15
Wep +7

+42

i also have a +2 from feats (so is realistic 44).

i have a epic raven sight (+4 to hit with set) but really i will like to drop that item to put something else. is why im trying to swap my gear arround

[Shade]

so 50 unbuffed? with no GH, recitation etc?

oka will work on that.

Really depends on what buffs you have access to.

I can reach roughly a +85 to hit max buffed (over +100 on crit confirms on sneak attacks).. But more realisticly its in the low 70s, or low 60s with power attack on with usual buffs.

I still miss stuff when the proper debuffs/buffs arent applied.

But if you dont have things like yugo pots, madstone, etc.. cant count em. Guessing your a ftr.. If you have the full line of usual ftr self buffs (gh, rage, haste, yugo, madstone, power surge).. Then yea a 50 base to hit + all those should be ok for most trash.. Youd wand bard songs + destruct for the harder orange/red named.

[Skavenaps]

Really depends on what buffs you have access to.

I can reach roughly a +85 to hit max buffed (over +100 on crit confirms on sneak attacks).. But more realisticly its in the low 70s, or low 60s with power attack on with usual buffs.

I still miss stuff when the proper debuffs/buffs arent applied.

But if you dont have things like yugo pots, madstone, etc.. cant count em.

i have a good selection of epic items... but as im trying to keep high as i can my AC, really is getting a pain. Boots are for abishai set (for the +3 AC)

[Shade]

i have a good selection of epic items... but as im trying to keep high as i can my AC, really is getting a pain. Boots are for abishai set (for the +3 AC)

Well unless your AC is over 100. It has no realistic impact in epics.. So take all that junk off and get some +to hit/dmg gear on.

[Skavenaps]

Well unless your AC is over 100. It has no realistic impact in epics.. So take all that junk off and get some +to hit/dmg gear on.

i know, but i really dont wanna enter into the AC topic. Just i want to hear about some numbers i will need to hit for epics. nothing else. call it flavor, call it boredom.

[Sarisa]

My Cleric can reach the low to mid 50's on the first strike, and can reliably hit most epic trash. Desert Gnolls, Malicia, and some Trolls (why do they have such high AC) are the main ones that give me hit trouble with that.

For Malicia and boss trolls, I use a set of debuffers to lower their AC, and can then reliably hit Malicia with a +9 equivalent weapon (Upgraded Dreamspitter's GEOB) on everything from a 4 on up. If I manage to land Strength Sapping, I can hit on a 2 or higher.

[Feithlin]

As others said, use GH and rage buffs, for another +5.

You can also use destruction on a DT for the equivalent of another +4.
On a hard to hit boss, use both destruction and imp. destruction every min for a total +8.

If you don't have aggro, don't forget SA bonus (for example CC gloves w/ +4 SA). If you have aggro, madstone will add to str.

Bard songs also clearly help a lot (usually +6 or +7), if you have the chance to have one in your group.

Beside that, other sources are further str bonuses (Titan gloves on a boss for example, for +6 str; madstone boots; yugo pots) and more debuffs. A simple Acid fog reduces AC by 4 for example.
The kensei ToD set also gives another +2 exceptional to-hit (+3 if kensei III).

Also remember that, on a fighter, you have attack action boosts. Haste boosts are usually better, but if you hit often, it may be better to increase your chance to hit.

As a defender, you should have two different configurations: one for AC, when needed, and one for dps. In epic, there's no much need for AC, so just use a pure dps configuration.

[elraido]

Destruction -4 to AC
Improved Destruction -8 to AC
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-12 to their ac, same as +12 to your hit. It takes like 5 seconds to hit, swap, hit, swap to main DPS weapon. Each lasts around 1 min.

[aristarchus1000]

Destruction -4 to AC
Improved Destruction -8 to AC
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-12 to their ac, same as +12 to your hit. It takes like 5 seconds to hit, swap, hit, swap to main DPS weapon. Each lasts around 1 min.

Is this correct? My understand is Destruction and Improved Destruction each provide stacking -4, for a total of -8.

I believe the description in-game is wrong, unless they fixed this in a recent update.

[elraido]

Is this correct? My understand is Destruction and Improved Destruction each provide stacking -4, for a total of -8.

I believe the description in-game is wrong, unless they fixed this in a recent update.

i knew there was an issue ago, but I thought they changed it. I might be wrong as well....either way, it would end up being either -8 or -12.

[Syllph]

The only problem with AC in epics is the glancing blows. Even if they can barely hit you; glancing blows will still do massive damage on nearly every swing.

[DevHead]

Um, I've got mid-40s to-hit unbuffed and I don't have any issues hitting things in Epic.

[HettarDDO]

Um, I've got mid-40s to-hit unbuffed and I don't have any issues hitting things in Epic.

I agree. Mid 40s unbuffed should be what your looking for. That will give you around 50 when buffed. You will be able to hit most things in epics reliably. For the few things that require a bit more just turn off PA.