Wiz beaten magical 600HP treshold

[Vellrad]

I know its ot very uber achievment, and its quite easy to get (only requires some grind), but I'm kinda proud



Helpfull when shadowkiting and telling melees they're squishy

[Shade]

grats.. But without showing your buffs or a basic gear list it's hard to call it a much..

I mean the last HP post was the favored soul with ~980 hp? And the only difference in those 2 classes hp wise is 4hp/lvl.. or 80 hp.

Now im sure you used far less buffs, but yea u kinda completely cropped off your buff list..

that said.. dwarves rock and there should be more dwarf wizards.

[Vellrad]

grats.. But without showing your buffs or a basic gear list it's hard to call it a much..

I mean the last HP post was the favored soul with ~980 hp? And the only difference in those 2 classes hp wise is 4hp/lvl.. or 80 hp.

Now im sure you used far less buffs, but yea u kinda completely cropped off your buff list..

Well, I hid all UIs, because 1/2 of my screen are hotbars

Buffs include lich form, rage spell and yugo pot.
Yeah, I know, yugo pot is to big easy button, and its not used always, because it mega expensive blablabla etc.
While its not very cheap, its not mega expensive- 4kplat/hour is not big expense, and for harder epics, harder raids and epic raids I feel its not a big price to pay.
Also, I need that damned +3 con tome, but reaver hates me. :/

PS: I'm not playing FvS, so I don't know it. Do they have class toughness enchancement line?

that said.. dwarves rock and there should be more dwarf wizards.

This 666% agreed. Dwarves are the master race, and people need to understand it!

Do you require a list of sources of HP?

[Shade]

think every class/race gets roughly the same from toughness less you really gimp your character. Used to a bbn/ftr only thing, but not really anymore. Every class gets at least the first 2 ranks, and rank 3/4 are too costly AP wise imo. (3 hp per ap Vers 10/5 for the first 2)

As to what im require.. heh nothing. Was just curious. Taking out buffs u didnt have he had like scourge choker/madstone and misc stuff easily knocks 200+ points off his total and makes it closer, so yea its a good amount.

[Oolung]

think every class/race gets roughly the same from toughness less you really gimp your character. Used to a bbn/ftr only thing, but not really anymore. Every class gets at least the first 2 ranks, and rank 3/4 are too costly AP wise imo. (3 hp per ap Vers 10/5 for the first 2)

As to what im require.. heh nothing. Was just curious. Taking out buffs u didnt have he had like scourge choker/madstone and misc stuff easily knocks 200+ points off his total and makes it closer, so yea its a good amount.

actually the only casting (divine or arcane, including bard) that gets toughness enhancements is FvS

[Shade]

actually the only casting (divine or arcane, including bard) that gets toughness enhancements is FvS

wow didn't know that since i never bother to take toughness on my casters..

fvs op!

mm added to wiki too, was missing.

[Gunga]

wow didn't know that since i never bother to take toughness on my casters..

fvs op!

FvS get +40 HP from their class hit die.
FvS can get +40 HP from class based Toughness enhancements.
Wizards get +0 HP from class based Toughness enhancements.

(from pope)

[jcTharin]

wow didn't know that since i never bother to take toughness on my casters..

fvs op!

mm added to wiki too, was missing.

All races get at least 2 ranks through enhancements. Humans that pick con boost get 3 (i think) and dwarfs and Warforged get 4.

some classes get toughness enhancements, and some don't get any.

[DoctorWhofan]

Cleric= zero enhancements.

[Shade]

All races get at least 2 ranks through enhancements. Humans that pick con boost get 3 (i think) and dwarfs and Warforged get 4.

some classes get toughness enhancements, and some don't get any.

ya checked it out.

Only way for wiz/sor/brd/rng/rog to get Class toughness enhancements is to go Half-Elf, and pick bbn diletant.. (unlocks bbn class ones + race ones)

Halfelf having more hp then dwarf.. Grumblegrumble!

[Vellrad]

In case anyone cares:

Constitution:
18 base
+3 race (2 free 1AP)
+2 inherent (AKA tome)
+2 rage
+2 yugoloth
+6 enhancement (AKA item)
+3 exceptional
+4 lich form
40 TOTAL (+15) mod

HP:
(20 minos)
(10 guild slot (medium))
(40 superior false life)
(45 GS item)
(20 yugo pot)
(135 'item' total)
______________
(22 toughness)
(30 racial toughness)
(10 draconic vitality)
(20 heroic durability)
(20 PMIII)
(102 'feat' bonus)
_____HP TOTAL_____
80 base (AKA class)
300 con bonus
102 feat bonus
135 item bonus
617 TOTAL

[Vellrad]

ya checked it out.

Only way for wiz/sor/brd/rng/rog to get Class toughness enhancements is to go Half-Elf, and pick bbn diletant.. (unlocks bbn class ones + race ones)

Halfelf having more hp then dwarf.. Grumblegrumble!

No way, 1/2 elf don't get +2 to +4 con ^^

[jcTharin]

ya checked it out.

Only way for wiz/sor/brd/rng/rog to get Class toughness enhancements is to go Half-Elf, and pick bbn diletant.. (unlocks bbn class ones + race ones)

Halfelf having more hp then dwarf.. Grumblegrumble!

Oh yeah, forgot about half-elf.

Anything Elf related having more HP than Dwarf/Warforged is seriously messed up.

*edit i was incorrect, helvs only get +2 con and 30 hp from barb enhancements and racial enhancements if they pick a con bonus. Less than the hp Dwarf/Warforged from their bonus toughness enhancments and +4 con.

I never really looked at helvs, their face made it too hard.

[Blank_Zero]

Half Elves are ubersawse. Just sayin'.

[GotSomeQuestions]

All races get at least 2 ranks through enhancements. Humans that pick con boost get 3 (i think) and dwarfs and Warforged get 4.

More precisely, everyone gets access to 2 ranks, and then every racial Constitution enhancement you take unlocks another rank. Humans can take one Con boosting enhancement (since the other must be a different stat), which would allow them to take Racial Toughness III. Dwarves and Warforged can take Racial Con I and II, allowing Racial Toughness III and IV.

Of course, that mean Toughness IV actually takes 8 AP for 10 hp and +1 con, a downright terrible deal for just about anybody. Two full levels of AP for ~20 hp?

[jcTharin]

Half Elves are ubersawse. Just sayin'.

They are also uglysawse ¬_¬

I normally don't have the helmet shown on any of my characters but if i ever get half-elves that helmet is staying on forrrrrrevvvvvverrrrrr

[dingal]

That's it I'm posting an achievement thread for my 507hp drow :P

Nice work though seriously. I wish more casters paid attention to the importance of HP but unfortunately that's only a lesson learned through bad experiences for most new players (including me).

[Alternative]

Well, pretty sure it's been done before. My human wiz has 597hp self buffed (missing 10 from mabar robe, only +2 con tome also) and at the same time 50int, which I always thought boosting int was the real achievement for a wizard. Still grats, if only more first life casters were close to that...


PS. As for toughness enhancements these are divided into racial and class. A fvs get 4 class enhancements, wizards get none (interestingly, neither do rangers). Everyone gets additional enhancements depending on their race: afair - dwarves/WF get four, humans (and probably helves) get up to 3, other races get 2 but I'm not sure about horcs.

Also yugo con pots have no negative effect on a non melee caster so I'd consider them a sustainable hp boost.

[Vellrad]

Well, pretty sure it's been done before. My human wiz has 597hp self buffed (missing 10 from mabar robe, only +2 con tome also) and at the same time 50int, which I always thought boosting int was the real achievement for a wizard. Still grats, if only more first life casters were close to that...


PS. As for toughness enhancements these are divided into racial and class. A fvs get 4 class enhancements, wizards get none (interestingly, neither do rangers). Everyone gets additional enhancements depending on their race: afair - dwarves/WF get four, humans (and probably helves) get up to 3, other races get 2 but I'm not sure about horcs.

Also yugo con pots have no negative effect on a non melee caster so I'd consider them a sustainable hp boost.

I never said I'm first or special, also I said its not hard, only a little (or a bit) grindy. I'm just happy I've done it, and I think I can relax, because I can afford a little more carelessness and reckleckness, and I'm not panicing when melees got weak DPS and/or threat generation, and big bad red/purple boss decides I'm more yummy than them.
Whats more, I would like everyone to get a lot of HP.

BTW pale masters got 200% fort, so they never got any disadvantages from using yugo pot, even when tanking a lot of mobs.

[knightgf]

Alright, next time im in a quest with you, your getting in front of me and acting as the meatshield. Wizards make good meatshields, I actually did that to someone in a Irestore Inlet a little while ago...I had to thank him for taking multiple scorching rays and rays of enfeeblement for me...