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    Dunno i just feel like making a list:
    impossible shapes (see penrose triangle, devils fork, etc.)

    does a set of all sets contain itself?

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    Can a time traveller kill his/her own father prior to the time traveller's conception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnhelm View Post
    Can a time traveller kill his/her own father prior to the time traveller's conception.
    Yes, he could, IF time travel into the past were possible without breaking an infinite entropy barrier. Time travel into the past is logically impossible, and self contradictory. That in itself makes time travel into the future at least Relatively/Relativistically impossible as well. Except that Relativity proves time travel into the future to be mathematically possible... Time Travel is it's own paradox. An enigma wrapped in a riddle wrapped in a chimmichanga.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stille_nacht View Post
    impossible shapes (see penrose triangle, devils fork, etc.)


    Quote Originally Posted by stille_nacht View Post
    does a set of all sets contain itself?
    That by itself is not really a paradox. Saying that such set does contain itself doesn't get you in a contradictive position.
    What about a set containing all sets, that does not include themselves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.Ogre View Post
    Yes, he could, IF time travel into the past were possible without breaking an infinite entropy barrier. Time travel into the past is logically impossible, and self contradictory. That in itself makes time travel into the future at least Relatively/Relativistically impossible as well. Except that Relativity proves time travel into the future to be mathematically possible... Time Travel is it's own paradox. An enigma wrapped in a riddle wrapped in a chimmichanga.
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    Ouch, ouch ouch. Thanks for the headache. Just woke up and read this thread. No caffine so brain hadn't even had time to get jump started yet. Thanks guys.

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    Nice try, but my head was built with paradox-absorbing crumple zones!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceTheHoon View Post
    That by itself is not really a paradox. Saying that such set does contain itself doesn't get you in a contradictive position.
    What about a set containing all sets, that does not include themselves?
    it does contain a contradiction (or rather an impossibility). a set of all sets necessarily includes all sets, which means that when you create the set, it includes itself, but since it now includes itself and all other sets, it is a different set, which it must then include, ad infinitum.

    not to mention that sets by definition are composed of smaller elements, meaning it it is a contradiction for the set to include itself, because that would make it bigger than itself.
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    Three students checked into a hotel and paid the clerk $30 for a room ($10 each). When the hotel manager returned, he noticed that the clerk had incorrectly charged $30 instead of $25 for the room. The manager told the clerk to return $5 to the students. The clerk, knowing that the students would not be able to divide $5 evenly, decided to keep $2 and to give them only $3.

    The students were very happy because they paid only $27 for the room ($9 each). However, if they paid $27 and the clerk kept $2, that adds up to $29. What happened to the other Dollar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nysrock View Post
    Three students checked into a hotel and paid the clerk $30 for a room ($10 each). When the hotel manager returned, he noticed that the clerk had incorrectly charged $30 instead of $25 for the room. The manager told the clerk to return $5 to the students. The clerk, knowing that the students would not be able to divide $5 evenly, decided to keep $2 and to give them only $3.

    The students were very happy because they paid only $27 for the room ($9 each). However, if they paid $27 and the clerk kept $2, that adds up to $29. What happened to the other Dollar?
    heh, tricksty, its because the clerk kept 2, that is the part of 27 payed to the clerk, the 3 dollars refunded is what you actually subtract. not a paradox, thats a misdirection :P
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    I put $20 in a box.
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    I sell you the box for $30.
    We each walk away happy with a $10 profit.

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