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    Talking You can use elemental damage on the Shroud Crystal

    Im so sorry

    First run of the Shroud on my sorc, explained to the pug party I was new to the shroud as a arcane etc, they decided to go hard, got to part two and someone showed me where the crystal was. advice was "Use magic missile or disintigrate"

    Well I didn't have disintigrate so magic missle it was, could not take it down quick enough obviously...twice.

    I feel like such a tool.

    Next guild run though some nice guidlie advised that I could use elemental damage, 2 chain lightnings and it was gone in 3 seconds.

    /facepalm

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    Yeah, the crystal has some elemental resistance but certainly nothing that renders it immune to such damage. If you have firewall available, a long-standing Shroud tradition is to use your mouse-look to aim up at the crystal and then just pile on the firewalls, even before the barrier goes down. Once it does, it starts taking firewall damage immediately.

    If fire spells aren't your cup of tea, dang near any other potent spell will work. Throw as many other spells as you can at it and if you are able to dish out any respectable amount of damage, it should go down in a matter of a few seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by augie View Post
    Yeah, the crystal has some elemental resistance but certainly nothing that renders it immune to such damage. If you have firewall available, a long-standing Shroud tradition is to use your mouse-look to aim up at the crystal and then just pile on the firewalls, even before the barrier goes down. Once it does, it starts taking firewall damage immediately.

    If fire spells aren't your cup of tea, dang near any other potent spell will work. Throw as many other spells as you can at it and if you are able to dish out any respectable amount of damage, it should go down in a matter of a few seconds.
    Yeah lesson learn't. Two casts of chain lightning on my air savant did the trick but dang that was embarrasing, hope that no one else makes that same mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by augie View Post
    Yeah, the crystal has some elemental resistance but certainly nothing that renders it immune to such damage. If you have firewall available, a long-standing Shroud tradition is to use your mouse-look to aim up at the crystal and then just pile on the firewalls, even before the barrier goes down. Once it does, it starts taking firewall damage immediately.

    If fire spells aren't your cup of tea, dang near any other potent spell will work. Throw as many other spells as you can at it and if you are able to dish out any respectable amount of damage, it should go down in a matter of a few seconds.
    The crystal no longer takes the initial hit of multiple firewalls anymore, so generally a firewall and then a followup single target spell takes it out nicely. Firewall will take it down eventually, but te way we run these days that gives the respawns too much time to get back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zebidos View Post
    advice was "Use magic missile or disintigrate"
    *blink* Use MM??? You were given some bad advice there. DoT like Acid Fog, Wall of Fire, Incindary Cloud are great to stack ontop of it for when the shield drops.

    Otherwise, spam until dead. Doesn't matter what, but it must be destroyed. I've never understood why shout/greater should doesn't do double damage to it being a crystalline structure, however.

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    Maybe the person who gave you that advice mixed up the portals and the crystal.

    For the Shroud portals, in part one, elemental damage is nothing but a waste of spell points. The only thing my sorcerer can cast at the portals that does anything is Disintegrate and Ice Storm, and for the latter only the bludgeoning damage hits. The ice damage does nothing. Other force spells work, too, I believe, but my sorc doesn't carry them.
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    Only use firewall and that's alll I have ever seen anyone else use


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    Quote Originally Posted by Uska View Post
    Only use firewall and that's alll I have ever seen anyone else use
    I find wall of fire to be very outdated. There was a time when wall of fire was the "must have" spell for every arcane. That has changed significantly over the last year or more. It was a weak choice before the spell pass and now is actually a poor choice.

    Disintigrate is the best choice if spec'd for it. Chain lightning and most other ray spells are also very good choices. Wall of fire is really only a reasonable choice for those who still fire spec.

    On an air savant chain lightning should be the spell of choice -- both in part 2 and for the crystals in part 3 to open the way to the fountain. In part 3 target left, target right, the chain part of the lightning should take care of the middle crystal. Two shots and things should be open. If not, target center and all 3 should be gone on the third shot. (Although if it takes that many castings people will wonder how well spec'd the character really is.)

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    Actually, firewall cant do significant damage to crystal since the spell change in U9.
    Maximized Disintegrate is 1shot to crystal, thats the best way to do it now

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistalley View Post
    Actually, firewall cant do significant damage to crystal since the spell change in U9.
    Maximized Disintegrate is 1shot to crystal, thats the best way to do it now
    Firewall still seems great to me


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    Quote Originally Posted by Uska View Post
    Firewall still seems great to me
    Think it is a case of how people spec due to the enhancement breakup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missing_Minds View Post
    Think it is a case of how people spec due to the enhancement breakup?
    My sorc doesn't currently carry wall of fire for that reason. Max ice, max lightning air savant. There just isn't the ap's for even a single point to the 3 fire lines. I think I ended up removing disintegrate too. It's a one-trick pony but it's one of my kids' toons and it makes a very nice shroud toon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missing_Minds View Post
    Think it is a case of how people spec due to the enhancement breakup?
    Yah your proably right I do enhance my fire and do have fire lore and the whole bit maybe they are enhancing elsewhere.


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    Firewall has been very slow for me, I usually use meteor or polar ray. I use mouse look and aim at the crystal, surf the web until somebody says something like "drop them," then come back and tap the key when the barrier drops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterOfWorlds View Post
    Firewall has been very slow for me, I usually use meteor or polar ray. I use mouse look and aim at the crystal, surf the web until somebody says something like "drop them," then come back and tap the key when the barrier drops.
    1 Firewall
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    with Max and Empower running, will take down the crystal on any difficulty.

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    have leveled my first sorc to 16, 17 now. i do the crysal by waiting til there is one boss left, then start hitting tab until wall goes down and as soon as the crystal is in view finder, hit it with polar ray and if needed another spell (frost lance). it took 2 once, but down in a second or two anyways. that is how i do it as a sorc that doesn't have firewall.

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    This just in Arcanes have been using FW on the Pt2 shroud crystal for years.
    Last edited by Bodic; 08-05-2011 at 03:21 PM. Reason: durn keypad ment 2 not 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodic View Post
    This just in Arcanes have been using FW on the Pt3 shroud crystal for years.
    u talking about the 3 over the door to get to the water to purify?

    I think OP was talking about part 2 crystal in middle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebeest View Post
    u talking about the 3 over the door to get to the water to purify?

    I think OP was talking about part 2 crystal in middle.
    I use firewall in both cases works great


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    I'm with Mobrien on this one. Shedding aggro is not always a piece of cake, especially with the devil, as he seems to teleport around randomly to everyone that he knows is "there." Also especially with a less than experienced puller (as Mobrien said). I would rather never be "there" in the first place. Hence the peeking.

    Peeking around the corner doesn't give me trouble with trash mobs. Not sure how our explanations indicate that we (or other arcanes) have trouble with trash. That was a strange remark.

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